P: "create virtual copy" from develop module keeps selecting next photo

[MeCody]

When I have several photos selected (two or more), and I "create a virtual copy" from the "Develop" or "Loupe" view, the current selected photo moves to the next or previous selection, rather than remaining on the newly created virtual copy. The new virtual copy appears, but I have to go back to it with each new virtual copy I create.

[Dennis24906350tp87]

Guten Tag, Windows Nutzer,

wenn ich im entwickeln Modul nach dem letzten Update eine virtuelle Kopie mit der rechten Maustaste mache, bleibt er nicht mehr beim Bild virtuelle Kopie 1 sondern springt automatisch zum noch nächsten Bild und ich muss immer wieder in der Werkzeugleiste ein Bild zurück gehen.

Ist das ein Bug oder kann man das einstellen. Habe ich vor dem Update 11.4 nicht gehabt.

Vielen Dank für die Hilfe.

[John R Ellis]

Google translation: "If I make a virtual copy with the right mouse button in the develop module after the last update, it no longer stays with the virtual copy 1 image but automatically jumps to the next image and I have to go back one image in the toolbar again and again.

Is this a bug or can it be adjusted. I didn't have it before the 11.4 update."

I don't see that problem in my LR 11.4 on either Windows 10 or Mac OS 12.4.  First troubleshooting steps:

- Try resetting LR's preferences:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/articles-page/how-do-i-reset-lightrooms-preferences/

LR sometimes soils its preferences file, and resetting it can fix all sorts of wonky behavior. That article explains how to restore the old preferences if resetting doesn't help.

- If that doesn't help, does rolling back to LR 11.3.1 fix the problem?

[chris_r88]

Habe dasselbe Problem. Seit 11.4 springt Lightroom automatisch auf as nächste Bild, wenn man eine virtuelle Kopie anlegt. Arbeite als Berufsfotograf und nerve mich tagtäglich darüber! Bitte behebt dieses Problem mit dem nächsten Update.

Verwende einen Mac mit M1 Max Chip und OS 12.3.1

Freundliche Grüsse aus der Schweiz

Chris

[Ian Lyons]

Have you tried resetting preferences as suggested by johnrellis above?

[chris_r88]

Ja. Auch danach immer noch dasselbe Problem.

Es ist offensichtlich ein (nerviges) Problem des Updates 11.4.

[Dennis24906350tp87]

Ja das Problem bleibt leider, ist nicht behoben. Sehr nervig, bitte den Fehler beheben.

Viele Grüße Dennis

[AxelMatt]

What happend when you using the shortcut Strg+T (Windows) or cmd+T (Mac) to create a virtual copy?

[chris_r88]

Bei meinem Workflow arbeite ich ausschliesslich mit Shortcut-Befehlen. Sowohl beim Shortcut-Befeht (cmd+T) als auch beim Erstellen einer virtuellen Kopie über die Menüleiste:  Foto > Virtuelle Kopie ist das Problem identisch.

[AxelMatt]

I've been working with Lightroom 11.4.1 under Windows 10 Pro (21H2) and don't see this problem.

Do you have try to install the latest update (11.4.1)?

[Dennis24906350tp87]

Ja haben wir alles gemacht. Das Problem ist im Entwickeln Modul mit mehreren ausgewählten Bildern wenn man dann aus der Serie nur das eine an dem man arbeitet kopieren möchte passiert es. 

Und bitte keine Tipps mit alles Deinstallieren  und wieder neu. Immer sehr viel Arbeit und hilft fast nie.

Vielen Dank

[chris_r88]

Genau. Dies bestätige ich so.

Lightroom ist mein Arbeitgerät. Für Tipps mit Deinstallieren und neu Aufsetzen habe ich keine Zeit.

[Ian Lyons]

You did not describe the issue in this way previously, which is unfortunate. The steps that I've used to reproduce the issue when combining your original description and above new information are:

1. Select multiple images (say 4) in the Library module

2. Change to the Develop module

3. Use KBSC to create a Virtual Copy or Right click the image in Develop module and select 'Create Virtual Copy'

Result: Using either of the methods described in 3 above will result in a Virtual Copy being created for the correct image, but the next image in the sequence is selected rather than the Virtual Copy.

Please confirm if above is correct.

[chris_r88]

Exactly. It's the sampe problem with any type of creation of a virtual copy.

[Ian Lyons]

Thanks

This bug is already registered internally. Therefore, I've moved the thread to the 'Bugs' forum.

[GoldingD]

Does this bug relate to the language in use?

[MeCody]

When I have several photos selected (two or more), and I "create a virtual copy" from the "Develop" or "Loupe" view, the current selected photo moves to the next or previous selection, rather than remaining on the newly created virtual copy. The new virtual copy appears, but I have to go back to it with each new virtual copy I create.

Here is an example attatched: I select three photos, enter "Develop", and create a virtual copy. It then brings up the next photo. I use my mouse to go back to my newly created virtual copy and create one more. Once again, it moves my selection forward. How do I make it stay on my newly created virtual copy?

ATTATCHED: Screen recording of issue.

[MeCody]

I have taken a screen recording of this issue and uploaded it here:

I select three photos, enter "Develop", and create a virtual copy. It then brings up the next photo. I use my mouse to go back to my newly created virtual copy and create one more. Once again, it moves my selection forward. How do I make it stay on my newly created virtual copy?

Screen Recording 2024-08-02 at 06.32.22 - lightroom virtual copy bug.mov

[Bob Somrak]

Works for me on LrC13.4 and Mac.

Did you restart LrC and the Computer?  If that fails than you should reset your Preferances.  Sometimes they gets messed up and creates all kind of odd issues and a reset fixes the issues.

[GoldingD]

Moderator

Can you assist this new member. I suspect as a new member, editing reply's may be out of bounds. In the reply a link is placed that unfortunately links to the discussion, not a video.

[MeCody]

Hi there, you would be correct about editing! The above comment was a duplicate that I cannot delete. There is actually a comment below this one with a working video that shows the issue. It only occurs when more than one photo is selected, and when "creating a virtual copy" from the develop view (using either keyboard shortcut or menu option).

[MeCody]

Thanks for the reply! I've restarted both my computer and LrC, tried updating LrC, but the problem persists. It's very specific though, it only causes issues if 2 or more photos are selected when I enter develop (I select the photos I want to edit and compare so I can easily switch between them). Then, while in develop, if I create a virtual copy, it will switch my active photo to the previous selection instead of the newly created virtual copy.

I have attached a screen recording to a reply above. (just ignore the duplicate reply that links back to this convo)

[drtonyb]

@MeCody 

I can reproduce this 100% of the time on my Windows 10 system in either Library Loupe or in Develop. Auto Sync needs to be turned off.

Let's assume there are only three photos and that they are all selected. If the 'most selected' photo in the selection is photo 3 (last in the selection), then after the VC of photo 3 is created, the previous photo 2 is selected. Otherwise, if the 'most selected' photo is not the last, then after the creation of the VC, then the next photo following the new VC is selected. This may be 'as designed'. It definitely can't be fixed by resetting Preferences, restarting LrC or reinstalling LrC.

I can understand this might be annoying for some users, but I don't understand the workflow here. Why have a selection of photos when the intention is to create a VC of one of them and then work on that new VC?

[Bob Somrak]

@MeCody  @drtonyb

On my Mac In either Library Loupe or in Develop. Auto Sync needs to be turned off the following is what happens 100% of the time.  

LrC always selects the VC that was created for the Most Selected master photo.  This is the behavior I would expect to be as-designed.

[drtonyb]

@Bob Somrak 

Your observation is puzzling, but I agree that it is the behaviour that should happen; the new VC should become the 'most selected'. The OP, @MeCody , is using a MAC the same as you, but gets a very different behaviour. I reset Preferences and still got the undesired behaviour.

Attached is a video of what is happening on my PC in Library Loupe and in Develop.

[Bob Somrak]

@drtonyb 

OK, my bad.  I get the same behavior has you show in your video if I use the menu to create a SINGLE VC.  What I was doing was using RightClick and creating all three VCs.  That works correctly.  I agree using the menu to create the VC is not the expected behavior.  I do not think I have ever used the menu an did not know it creates a single VC.  This appears to be a bug or at a minimum a POOR design.