P: White Balance - As Shot added as a History step automatically when using Embedded Previews

[ShootingPixelsAndy]

Strange behaviour in the latest release of LR Classic 13.3 (Win). I've imported a shoot and used the embedded previews as I always do.

As I move through the filmstrip in develop every time I click on an image that still has the embedded preview icon showing LR is adding a new White Balance - As Shot to the history for the image. If I undo this step so the history is empty switch to another image and then back again LR doesn't add the WB setting again.

It seems it only happens to images using the embedded preview the first time they are opened in Develop.

It's very annoying as I can no longer use the unedited filter to see if there's any images in my final selection that haven't been edited.

[John R Ellis]

That confirms you're experiencing the same LR 13.3 bug as many others.

[John R Ellis]

Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography, @Rick Spaulding - , please merge with this Bug:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-white-balance-as-shot-added-as-a-history-ste...

[Michal235827356jdf]

And it's not that you have some adjustments set in the camera that have the photo as a thumbnail, but when you load the raw you see the photo in raw (I exaggerate on the example, if I shoot raw, but I set the camera with a black and white filter, so when viewing the photo is black and white, but raw is raw, so it is not black and white)

[Michal235827356jdf]

getting the bug on mac 😞

[bijalba]

@John R Ellis@Rick Spaulding - 

the request to merge makes some sense, but this at best the embedded preview issue is a facet of the issue and the original thread had been up for 3+ years at this point (and there were even earlier threads about this) I don't have the issue due to previews, as a lot of this thread seems to imply: it isn't all images using embedded previews for me, as I said years ago in a batch of 1500ish it will happen with a small handful of photos  It did not "start with the latest version" as my original disc version of lightroom (before it was referred to as classic) had this issue as well.

I'm not asserting that the issue doesn't newly and consistently happen with embedded previews, I'm simply stating the issue has long been in Lightroom and is not "new to LR 13.3" as the first post in the original thread was June 2021 (LR 11 is dated 10/2021) and had been a problem since long before.

Thank you for the attention regardless! I'm hopeful that this tangentially roots out all causes of this

[Michal235827356jdf]

Hey, if you Are responding to me i was not responding to you about preview, but to Jiidee, i have the same bug.

[Jean-Philippe5C8B]

Help ! 

Depuis deux jours lorsque je passe d'une photo à l'autre dans l'onglet développement un effet s'applique sur mes photos. Il n'est pas perceptible visuellement, mais l'icone sur la petite photo du menu m'indique qu'une modification a été apportée à la photo.

Lorsque je fais command+Z il indique : Annuler balance des blancs Telle quelle. 

Quelq'un peut m'aider ? 

{Moved from Lightroom Cloud to Lightroom Classic Forum by Moderator} 

[GoldingD]

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-white-balance-as-shot-added-as-a-history-ste...

[Kevin36294578dx2e]

Just started experiencing this issue tonight for the first time in several years of using Lightroom. It is beyond frustrating. Normally I would go in the Develop module and click through the images to preview them, edit the ones I want, and then apply a filter to only view edited images, so I can then export just those edited images.

Now every single image I "preview" gets an auto white balance edit applied. So when I apply my filter to only view edited images, it selects every image because it appears as if there is an edit when there really isn't. 

Ironically I just upgraded Lightroom to version 13.3.1 tonight - so cleary there is some bug with this version. Surely someone working at Adobe can see there is a problem with all the people reporting the same issue as of late, and push out a patch to correct the problem, right?! Or is there a way to go back to the previous version of Lightroom Classic??

[folktalesau]

I updated my lightroom which fixed the issue temporarily but now it happens intermittently and isnt “auto white balance” it just says “multiple settings” and counts it as edited.. such a pain

Regards,
Ash Dawson

Owner & Partner
Folktales Photo + Video

[karlyep91077022]

Having this exact same issue. Why is this happening literally randomly?

[Márcio_Silva]

Hello!

After a while thinking the issue was gone, I can say I was wrong.

Not only the bug did not disappear, but it now seems to have a new behavior (at least for me).

I thought the bug only ocurred when cycling through the photos with the previous and next keys (left and right) but I have just witnessed a simple mouse click browse to trigger that "auto balance" without even going into the white balance controls!

I was watching some photos in the current folder in monitor #2, clicked one to see in full screen on monitor #1 (I have Lightroom Classic spread across two screens) and as soon as the photo loaded, it applied a "white balance" setting on its own.

[JSkolnick]

isn't the issue here not why or how to undo it in an image -- but it's about workflow. I "look" at images in develop mode and "touching" them applies the white balance which makes it look as if I "edited the photo" at the end of actually "editing" photos I want to move photos only that were edited or apply a number to them or rating however I dont know the difference between the ones that were actually worked on and this stupid bug  -- can someone help answer this question? How do we go back?  

[JSkolnick]

precisely!!!!!!!!!!!

[ShootingPixelsAndy]

Hey, I've just discovered that a RESET on the images makes them susceptible to the bug, even if they aren't using embedded previews.

Import some images with standard previews.
In Develop check the bug isn't happening by selecting images in turn.
Now select all the images and apply Settings > Reset All Settings
Re-check the bug by again selecting images in turn and the dreaded white balance: as shot returns.

[Madhushree25192513q5eq]

Go to Library module > Quick develop > Check if Save preset and White blance is set to custom. 

Change it back to default settings. Then, try importing images to Lightroom classic. 

[GoldingD]

Go to Library module > Quick develop > Check if Save preset and White blance is set to custom.

Change it back to default settings. Then, try importing images to Lightroom classic.

By Madhushree25192513q5eq

Is that an undocumented change?

If so, not a desired change.

[Ricky336]

Just a heads up, but this automatic application of white balance 'As Shot" still appears in the History steps - 13.4. Is this intentional? Or is this still a bug?

Can a fix be offered for this?

[John R Ellis]

This bug is still marked as "Unresolved" (see the bottom of the first post), and the release notes for LR 13.4 don't mention it being fixed. Adobe is very good about updating bug reports here with changes in status.

[ShootingPixelsAndy]

@Ricky336 Sadly bugs can take a fair old while to get fixed, the first one I reported took 3 years and I reported another just over a year ago. I'm amazed and saddened in equal measures that bugs like this slip past the testers 😢🤦‍:male_sign:🤷‍:male_sign:

Anyone know if there are any stats on average time to fix, it might help manage our expectations and frustration.

[Kevin25724632x4ht]

Hello everyone, I am seeing a change in my lightroom after updating to version 13.4. I was having the issue where I would view a photo in developer in 13.3 and it would apply changes automatically and add a history item but it was just white balance. Since my update to version 13.4 it is doing it more consistently but it says "Multple Settings". I can't tell what it is modifying, and I don't want it to be doing this. I don't know if this helps but I made a screen recording of this happening https://youtu.be/Nh1FZLK4agU

This video shows selecting an image I haven't viewed in developer before, going into developer, and a history change is generated without any additional action. I undo the change, select another picture, the history is modified again without interaction, I select another picture and the same thing happens, I undo the change, and go back to the other image and undo that change. I normally navigate with the keyboard but for this recording, I only used the mouse so no keyboard shortcuts are being pressed or accidentally pressed.

I don't know if this helps or not but I thought I would share what is happening visually.

[guillaumeg73051064]

Bonjour,
Depuis peu, quand j'importe mes photos sur lightroom, il modifie d'office les températures de couleur pour chaque photo. On le voit tout d'abord car le curseur de température est d'office bougé (n'est plus au milieu) et on le voit aussi tout simplement en comparant la photo avec le mode "avant / après" : les deux photos ont une température différente avant même d'avoir fait la moindre modification ?!?
Quelqu'un sait comment empecher cela?
Merci d'avance! 

[GoldingD]

1. Can you post in a reply a screenshot of your LrC Develop module, at that point in the editing. A full screen. Please make sure the History Panel is shown, Please make sure the Histogram is shown. And naturally, the Basic Panel is shown.

This should be of an image that has just been imported, with no user mods accomplished.

2. Can you post a screenshot of your LrC  /Preferences/Presets/

P.S. I see that you are new to the community. Do not be surprised if the Moderator(s) move your post from Bugs, to Discussions.

• https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-do-i-post-in-discussions-or-bugs/idi-p/13691...

[patricias89837878]

Same thing is happening to me. I have talked to customer service several times and no help at all. I can't wrok like this... anyone has been able to find a solution?

[Dmytro38807483h4nb]

When this will be fixed?