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January 22, 2023
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people. There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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Kataklizmic

Participant

There is no feather option, sometimes resulting in visible separation between the removed area and the background instead of blending into the background.

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Samson22828419vul7

Participant

I keep getting this error. My computer, Adobe Cloud and photoshop are all still accessing the internet. Lightroom, for some reason, has suddenly stopped staying connected to the internet. When I quit lightroom and reopen it the AI Generative feature will work once or twice before failing and giving this error.

johnrellis

Legend

@Samson22828419vul7, sometimes firewalls and anti-malware mistakenly interfere with LR's outgoing network connections. Try these initial troubleshooting steps to identify if that's the issue:

1. Temporarily disable any firewall and anti-malware package on your computer.

2. Connect your computer to a different network (phone hotspot, coffee-shop wifi, neighbor's network, etc.)

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tae_hun_4665

Participant

좋은 기능 같지만 항상 제대로 작동하는건 아닌거같네요

johnrellis

Legend

@tae_hun_4665: "It seems like a nice feature, but it doesn't always seem to work properly."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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James Laver, UK

Participant

Wow - amazing. I had a shot of a dinner party illuminated with two fill fashes with diffusers on. One of the flashes reflected back off of the glass covering a painting. I used generative AI in LRC to remove the flash whiteout and the surrounding halo. G AI managed to replace the lost cushion data and the boundary between the cushion and the sofa in the painting!! Am seriously impressed but also concerned for the future.

gary_sc

Community Expert

@James Laver, UK I think it's when the AI knows who painted the painting and accurately adds the painter's signing of the painting we really have to start worrying… 😄

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Gabriele Martins Photo

Participant

Hello, I was really enjoying it, but it stopped working. How to solve this problem????? urgent

johnrellis

Legend

@Gabriele Martins Photo: "it stopped working. How to solve this problem?"

We'll need a lot more information:

1. Details about what you're doing and what you're observing.

2. Full-resolution screenshots (not phone pics) of the entire LR window are often best, including any error messages.

3. Do the LR menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the entire contents here so we can see exactly which versions of hardware and software LR thinks you're running and important LR options that are set.

4. Attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail.

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raymond_1369

Participant

I find that the removal does not work well at all. It just gives me a blured image that is not even identifiable ?? in place of what I was trying to remove. I now just usePhotoshop to remove objects.

johnrellis

Legend

@raymond_1369: "removal does not work well at all. It just gives me a blurred image that is not even identifiable ?? in place of what I was trying to remove"

Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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johnb60331596

Participant

This is an amazing new product for LRC. However, with it being in its infancy I find it is NOT consistent with its application. I have been unable to remove a power pole but I was sucessful in removing the lines. I have a blank pole in my shot. not what i want. any advise or suggestions.

thanks

Arnold-Norway

Known Participant

I also like this tool a lot. I found early that I had to learn how to use it, and my results have inproved. Did you follow the recommended guidelines, linked by others in this thread? Mask the whole pole and its shadows etc?

RegardsArnold Hoddevik

johnrellis

Legend

If arnoldfoto.no's suggestions don't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Vladimir_Ad�n

Participant

La agregación de esta herramienta IA está muy buena porque todo lo podemos trabajar en el mismo Lightroom y al eliminar objetos el trabajo es más rápido. Le pueden agregar el cambio de cielo a Lightroom, ya que Photoshop lo tiene incorporado y sería más rápido trabajar en un solo programa, que esto es común en muchas fotografías de cambiar el cielo.

lloyd1986

Participant

Generative Remove really is an incredible feature! To be able to remove simple items that otherwise would have taken hours of cloning and blending of pixels is a godsend! My only request would be that when removing features that cover subjects faces, if the feature could, where possible, use information about the subjects actual face, possibly gleaned from when Lightroom identified individual faces on import, to rebuild the subjects face and provide a more accurate portrayal, would be an immesurably beneficial addition.

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creative_7207

Participant

I have tried this a couple of times and find it has left a shadow of the area I was trying to remove - not impressed so far

johnrellis

Legend

@creative_7207: "it has left a shadow of the area I was trying to remove"

This can happen if you're applying Remove on top of an existing AI mask (e.g. Sky). Do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings to recompute the mask. In general, apply Remove first, then AI masks. If it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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