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January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

894 replies

iank85881269
Participant
August 17, 2024

The new AI replace function is frequently brilliant, particularly when removing odd people from a picture.  I have had great success both when a rope was stretched infront and when a slated bench was behind.  But with a completely plain background, eg sky, it is useless, insists on finding something to replicate in the space.  Wouldn't matter, except that the clone tool doesn't source it's data from an alt-click selection, but also seems to find something in the picture to put in the space.  Why?!!!!  But still a valuable new tool, well done to all who developed it.

johnrellis
Legend
August 17, 2024

@iank85881269: "But with a completely plain background, eg sky, it is useless, insists on finding something to replicate in the space."

 

Is the object close or touching the edge of the photo?  If so, there could be cropped-out pixels that are causing this behavior, and you'll have to undo any Crop, Lens Corrections, and Transform.  See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

 

Known Participant
August 17, 2024

It would be better if Lightroom had the dialog box like Photoshop so you could give some direction to the AI.  

Matt Clara
Participating Frequently
August 17, 2024

I selected the Remove Tool, enabled the AI function and Object Aware and carefuly created a mask slightly larger than a car that I wanted to remove from in front of a business.  I knew it was a long shot.  The AI removed it and put in a new, less realistic car in its place.  I checked the variations, they all featured a new car.  So I refreshed and had it try again and it did the same thing, though I did enjoy the car with two front ends both coming and going.  I realize that this is "generative" as in, it's going to generate something, but someone may want to remind the AI that it's part of the "remove tool" and so we're looking for an absence of something here, not an addition.  It would have been super cool if it removed the car and I look forward to Adobe's continued improvements.

johnrellis
Legend
August 17, 2024

"The AI removed it and put in a new, less realistic car in its place."

 

Make sure you've selected any shadows created by the car and all disconnected parts of it. See this article for more details on how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participating Frequently
August 16, 2024

As of this date, I got the update and remove works a lot better!  It looks similar to the remove tool in PS Beta

Participant
August 16, 2024

Finding generative ai very hit and miss. Sometimes works briliantly other times just replaces the selected item with a similar image or something even worse!

johnrellis
Legend
August 16, 2024

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Yannick.H
Participant
August 16, 2024

I'm in awe!

This feature is really good to remove small items in the picture... 

Like a broom, a extinguisher or a bucket... 

 

Good job!!

Participant
August 15, 2024

It turned a scent diffuser in in a small room into a coconut.  My favorite WTF transformation so far.

johnrellis
Legend
August 15, 2024

@patrickm10821648: "It turned a scent diffuser in in a small room into a coconut."

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
August 15, 2024

This is an awesome tool, works great too. I’ve used it on so many pics where there were unwanted elements in the background. This tool removed with ease on most everyone. I can only imagine where Adobe takes this tool with updates and improvements. Thanks Adobe for the opportunity of testing this tool out.

YannigVdW
Known Participant
August 14, 2024

Good AI generation, but the contrast with the og photo is visible much too clearly. (I removed a crane here)

Zeroing everyhting to Adobe defaults doesn't really improve this issue.

johnrellis
Legend
August 14, 2024

@YannigVdW: "but the contrast with the og photo is visible much too clearly. "

 

There have been a number of other such examples posted here where the replacement doesn't quite match the surrounding background. You can often avoid or significantly reduce this by making a raggedy selection around the object or a much larger selection, e.g.

 

To help Adobe improve, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo.

Participant
August 14, 2024

in love with this feature. even while it doesnt always remove only replace. can't wait for the whole acess to come out it would be incredible.

johnrellis
Legend
August 14, 2024

@laura_2143: "it doesnt always remove only replace."

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.