P: Support cataloging PSB files

[alanterra]

Lightroom should catalog psb files, just as it does psd files. I have many psb files that are not over the 65,000 pixels per side or 512 megapixel limits, but are larger than the 4GB limit on psd files, and it would be nice to see them in Lightroom.

[ChristopherHauser]

Well the size limit is still there... not usefull for me at all.

[addieleman]

You mean saving it to a PSD file? Yes, that is still limited to 2 GB. If you open a file from Lightroom, make it grow beyond 2 GB and then save it, you get an error message telling you the file is too big.

However, I just tested by opening a raw file from Lightroom. I copied the background into 40 layers or so and then saved it as a PSB file, amounting to 8.92 GB. Lightroom shows that PSB file in the catalog after the "Save As" action, didn't have to do anything like synchronizing the folder. So yeah, for me it works and I'm delighted.

[ChristopherHauser]

No, I’m talking about psb files larger than 512Mp.....

[addieleman]

Oh OK, I understand.

[Roland_Rick]

I would be already happy, it Lightroom Classic did show up PSB files. If you must save a PSD files as PSB file because it's > 2 GB, this will yet never again show up in Lightroom Classic, even not after synchronising folder. And that's kinda ridiculous...

[Roland_Rick]

For a Radial/Zoom blur filter having realtime preview we are already waiting since 2004...

[jonathan.lipkin]

This  is definitely a step in the right direction, but I see some problems. Primarily, files must be saved with "Maximize Compatibility" checked. I guess this creates a layer that LR can read and use as the thumbnail and as something to edit in the Develop module. HOWEVER, this adds quite a bit to the file size. I the case of my 100MP captures, it's 2GB per file. I currently have around 200 psb files. In order to use this feature, I have to add about 400G to my storage capacity. Not a huge amount, but significant. Worse, I have to go back and resave every file with max comp. I'd much prefer if there was a way to read existing files - wihout being able to develop them

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Updates to Lightroom Classic, were released yesterday and contain initial support for PSB files.   Please install the appropriate update. You can read more about the updates here.

Note: Lightroom pixel-dimension maximums (65,000 Pixels long edge or 512 MP - whichever comes first) continue to be a limitation but the team is looking into expanding this range in a future enhancement for the PSB file support. 

Thank you for your patience.

[TheDigitalDog]

Like all files within Classic, the maximum dimensions are 65,000 pixels on the long edge or 512 megapixels. So it’s a start but it doesn’t fully support PSB. 

[johnrellis]

"Primarily, files must be saved with "Maximize Compatibility" checked. ... Worse, I have to go back and resave every file with max comp."

Using PSD files in LR has the same drawbacks, unfortunately.

[johnrellis]

Hmm, I observe different behavior that appears correct:

1. In LR, select a raw and do Edit In Adobe Photoshop.

2. In Photoshop, do File > Save As and select Format: Large Document Format.

3. Observe that the saved .psb appears in the LR catalog stacked with the original raw.

If you're observing something different and undesirable, post in detail the steps you're taking and what's going wrong.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I'm so happy to finally see PSB support in Lightroom Classic! PSBs are part of my daily workflow as a commercial photographer, and I have been waiting for this update for years. Thank you Adobe!

[Ole Pa]

Thank you, Adobe!  This is THE feature I needed most in LR... the ability to catalog all of my images.  I was losing faith, but you came thru.  Thanks a million! - Jim

[ChristopherHauser]

Well, it would be great if I actually COULD catalogue all images, sadly the size restrictions are still there... 😞

[johnrellis]

To clarify for others: LR restricts all images, of any format, to be no larger than 512 megapixels and no larger than 65,000 pixels on a side. The addition of PSBs to LR doesn't relax that restriction, but it does allow files larger than 2 GB (PSD) and 4 GB (TIFF).

[Bob Somrak]

The size restrictions affect a minuscule percentage of photographs.  I suspect most  photographers photos will be well under the limits and they will happily welcome the addition even with the restrictions.

[TheDigitalDog]

What’s is the minuscule percentage and how was that percentage value produced? 
It’s odd Adobe can’t fully support their own file format as designed. I’m not going to suspect why that is; I don’t like suspecting. 
"I never guess/assume. It is a shocking habit -- destructive to the logical faculty." -Sir Arthur Conan Doyle

[DomiPro]

This is not enough... try harder Adobe and give us NO restrictions. This is not professional !

[Paul Takeuchi]

Yes, thank you, Adobe. A very long time in coming. Such a badly needed feature. We look forward to larger dimension importability in the future. One suggestion: while I know Adobe, nor any company, wants to promise features and not deliver, it would have been considerate if 3-6 months ago, Adobe told us, hey, we're listening and we're currently developing this functionality, so stay tuned. The total silence during this lengthy request was very alienating and really was unneccessary for a company with customer-driven products like Adobe.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I hit the limit with the first image I tried. Thanks for the explanation.

[StevenMColorado]

Thank you adobe! This is brilliant. I just tried the update. So MUCH better! Thank you, thank you thank. I'd almost lost the faith . .. .

[alex.furer]

Thank you! Took a while, but hey as we say "Ende Gut alles Gut".

As for the 65'000 pixel limit I think this really only affects a very small hand full of people. This converts to 5.5 meters (18 feet) @300 dpi. Modern fine art printers can upscale images up to 4 times which would convert this to be 22 meters (72 feet). So technically you could work on a 22 x 22 meter image (printed) in Photoshop and Lightroom now. Besides that there's no printer that can print this in one go, that's plenty considering the viewing distance rule onto this print in real world conditions.

Off course there might be people that are, rightfully, exceeding this limitation in their work. But hey, that's why we're all called creatives.

[naestyoh]

Yeah that viewing distance rule is because of shortcomings in res. My 96” wide prints are at 1200dpi and customers view them at 1-2 feet because they /can/. It’s not upscale - it’s massive telephoto stitches.

[Bob Somrak]

I am extremely happy they released PSB support with size restrictions now instead of waiting to accommodate the larger sizes.  They can take their time to remove the restrictions if they choose but this present feature is useful NOW.

[ChristopherHauser]

They shouldn’t take their time. The new support is great, but for my work I still can’t use Lightroom to get all my images catalogued. Especially since starting to work with the IQ4150 and GFX100 I easily reach the size limit on nearly all of my panorama work.