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P: Generated images violate user guidelines

Community Beginner ,
May 23, 2023 May 23, 2023

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So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

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Adobe Employee , Nov 10, 2023 Nov 10, 2023

Dear Community,

On November 7th, 2023, the Firefly for Photoshop service was updated and improved for this issue. You should encounter fewer guideline errors when working on or near skin-tone areas that do not violate the community guidelines.

While the improvement is a big step in the right direction, we are continuing to explore new ways to minimize false-positives. Please continue to give us feedback on this new forum thread and also report false violation errors in the application.
Thank you

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Engaged ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

OK Worked THIS time got some nice white chimney smoke

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Community Expert ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

@Graham24508943nobd, that's great, so glad I could help, and thanks for coming back to let us know!

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New Here ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

I keep getting this error. All I am trying to do is extend an image of a live music concert. This did not happen on the previous beta version.

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Community Expert ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

@uging30866256ig47 I tried this prompt, “light steam coming from hot food,” as a quick example, and it looks like you might get something workable with a better selection area and some fine-tuning!

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Community Expert ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

@Adam30945406ufs1, to make sure I understand, are you trying to extend the exact same image in the same way with the 24.7.0 Beta release? Or are you talking about a different image? Can you post the image so others can try?

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New Here ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023
I didn’t add any prompt – I just highlighted the empty space where I wanted to extend an image and clicked generate – which led to guidelines error and no image. Weirdly enough though, when I wrote “extend” in the prompt, it was able to generate images without error
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New Here ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

Hi, i'm trying the new beta generative fill, i usually take fashion photos, sometimes also bathing suites and bikinis for e-commerce, i tried some photos to "complete" them, for example trying to transform close up to a mid closeup, or change lower part of a mid clouseup to see if i could get a different pose etc. 

 

but whatever i try, also not giving any word and let the generative fill "decide" what to do (example i have mid close up and i want to have a mid shot leaving a blank space below) , i always have the violating guidelines prompt, obviously no p*rn photos, but also simple bathing suite, bikini, or just a low neckline dress, whatever i try i get the violating guidelines prompt.

 

is this feature forbidden for people who shoot fashion photos? ok avoiding p***ography, but fashion dresses, bathing suites and bikinis should be the minimum allowed, i am not sure, but i think that if the subject is dressed it is something like PEGI 12, even with a little revealing dress.

Probably many adobe customers also live of artistic nudity but ok probably it will never be PEGI 18 (ESRB adult) "friendly" but at least PEGI 16 (ESRB mature) should be allowed, it seems that guiledines are around pegi 7 not even pegi 12 (ESRB teen wich allows revealing clothes or even partial nudity).

 

some feedback from developers about this? should we photographers who live of a little more mature than ESRB 10+ (or PEGI 7) content (but not much, as i said it blocks even PEGI 12+ content) abandon the idea to use this new tool?

thanks

 

 

p.s. example photo is not shoot by me, it's a public photo of a public famous influencer taken as a result on google, so copyrights are to her, using this photo just as an example for the pose wich reflects what i was saying (the white space is what i asked to complete to AI) about violating guidelines.

 

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Engaged ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

Adam, try adding a full stop ( period ) and nothing else in your prompt boxt when extending an image. Works for me  every time

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Community Expert ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

For some reason, typing a [.] doesn't work for me at all. I'm finding that cropping to extend the canvas area, then hitting Generate does a pretty good quick job out of the gate.

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New Here ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

Hello, I just uploaded DSC02580.psd.  I am getting the same message when I try to generative fill the section below her feet and shoes.  I want to be able to create the other shoe in the picture, but I keep getting the same error message about violation of guidelines.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

Photoshop Beta 24.7.0 Release

I attempted to use generative fill on a picture of a flower of the selection with no prompt, but was rejected due to a false user guidelines violation. I can supply the original image but its too large to attach.

 

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I expect this not to be flagged due to it being a picture of a flower.

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Explorer ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

I would say that nearly half of the images I have "violate" the terms. I would be reporting images continually. I am frankly getting fed up with it. Expanding the background of an image is mostly all I do, and a bikini or even nude girl in the image should have no barring on "violating terms". It's not Adobe's business of a girl in a bikini or nude is in my image. I dont need nor want big brother dictating art to me. Artistic Freedom is a must and this censorship is going WAY over the line imo. 

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Explorer ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

Adding the full stop (period) does help move it along. Thanks. Tha's amazing.

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New Here ,
Jul 07, 2023 Jul 07, 2023

some additions

in some photos if you write "complete photo" it doesn't work, if you write "complete the photo", it works, other times "viceversa", and most of the time adding any word doesn't work, i think is a little confusing, i tried to remove a child from a photo, but the word child or children seems to be totally "violating", i think that "remove children" "remove baby" should work, i don't see how it could be abused removing. 

i would think about some "mature" words, for example i tried "make breasts bigger" "make bust bigger" etc didn't work, but we all know it is a normal workflow with some models using liquify to do it, making it with AI would make the work a lot shorter, and i can't find a reason why it shouldn't work.

if is possible would also be to have a page with all the not allowed words (or combination) on the website

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Community Expert ,
Jul 08, 2023 Jul 08, 2023

I've had that issue too. The AI is still learning about what is appropriate. I'd suggest you increase the size of your selection area and try the Generative Fill again.

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Explorer ,
Jul 08, 2023 Jul 08, 2023

To remove something why not use the remove tool and not generativefill? 

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Community Expert ,
Jul 08, 2023 Jul 08, 2023

If you suspect an innocent word is banned, go to Firefly and enter a prompt that uses the word. In most cases, it will work. The problem in most cases is a bug and has little to do with censorship. 

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New Here ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

I get the same thing by simply selecting someting and clicking "Generate". Beta's AI consistently generates imagery that it's violating it's own rules. Which both funny, and scary.

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New Here ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

It helps typing things like "background" or "texture". Leaving it blank will cause a violation error quite often.

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Community Expert ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

"I have always been able to circumvent this issue by making an additional small selection elsewhere far removed the main selection itself."

Thank you daniellei4510, such a good point !

Now this little girl can have legs (feet are still really ugly but this is another issue).

 

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Explorer ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

I got a "computer says no" violation for simply trying to remove a flash reflection in a window behind my subject (a fully clothed man wearing headphones, in case you're wondering).

You can see the selection and I added no text to GF.Screenshot (92) - Copy.png

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Engaged ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

Getting worse .

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New Here ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

I just tried to add 'Meare, Somerset' as the background and got the warning.

It's the name of my small village in England, so not sure how it breaks any guidelines. It's a couple of miles from Glastonbury, and there have been far more interesting images coming from there 😄

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New Here ,
Jul 09, 2023 Jul 09, 2023

The second cow image is probably closer than the first, but it looks like longer sentences get better results

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Engaged ,
Jul 10, 2023 Jul 10, 2023

Had the problem with messy colours bleeding a lot

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