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BUG REPORT: Time remap of nested sequence results in black/empty video using GPU

Explorer ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Only work-around seems to be to switch to "Mercury Playback Engine Software Only" which is brutal with 4K nested sequences.

This has been discussed for years on the Adobe Forums
https://forums.adobe.com/search.jspa?q=time%20remap%20nested%20sequence

but I did not find it listed here, so I am posting it now.
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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Please fix this issue, it makes it very hard to get the job done right and promptly. .

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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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It's been at least 4 years and this still hasn't been fixed, please fix this Adobe!
Time remapping a nested sequence should not result in black preview, and I want the option to use either rendering option.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I'm also very frustrated by this when working on deadlines for big clients. this takes so much time.
Adobe you can do this!! Please.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Another example!

It doesn't help to switch to only software. If I export is black also

https://youtu.be/fhKRMcD_aNM

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Seems the problem isn't fixed yet? Also working with 5K footage, render and replace + warp stabilizer doesn't work just like nesting the clip and then adding warp stabilizer doesn't work: both instances render partly black clips...

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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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So Adobe Technical support solves me the problem removing the folder of common in roaming. but it happens again when you make some changes in the sequence. So every time you have the issue you must close premiere and delete the folder. Looks it's a problem of the cache previews.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Having this problem as well. Time remapping nested sequence results in black frames. Turning to "software only" doesn't fix it, and the black frames are there after export too.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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1. Switch the render to Software only (Not OpenCL or Metal) in both Adobe Premiere and Adobe Media Encoder if you're using it.

2. Close your project file, go to Documents and rename the 'Adobe' file 'Adobe OLD'.

3. Try exporting again.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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It's July 2019 and I am still seeing this issue. If the product was able to use the multicore processors we have in 2019, switching off the GPU wouldn't be such a big deal.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I support this report. I edited in Premiere a 360 VR that is only a few seconds long and I included on it a time remapping. Once exported to After Effects in an arbitrary point becomes black and stays this way until the end.

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Explorer ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I make a lot of timelapse videos, and am forced to forgo smooth speed transitions because of this bug. That's like half the use cases for me, which I've spend thousands on this software for (the other being 360 video editing, but now Sony Vegas has it).
Unurprisingly, the free tool FFMPEG is becoming my primary "editing" tool for timelapse ingest, since it can do things like time remapping, stitching and concatenating folders of image sequences without taking literal hours.

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LEGEND ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Common Adobe! You are taking excesive ammount of time to fix this bug. It's been there for years and there's still no answer.
Please fix, pity please!

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Using Mercury Playback Engine Software Only also freezes frames when playing with Bezier curves

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I wish we customers could charge you our hourly fee for the amount of time because of this bug.
It was first reported 4 years ago and still nothing has been done. Way to go Adobe.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I have spent half of my day trying to figure out why I can't speed ramp a set of nested photos. As soon as the speed increases, I get black frames and the images disappear. I even exported the nested photos as a video and then reimported that video back into PP to try to speed ramp that... it did not work either. This project is due tomorrow and the client specifically wants the slideshow to increase speed with the music. The entire video should have taken me 4 hours total and now I have an entire day in this and a blank timeline.

 

Mod note: Edited for content.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Spent 2 hours in speed ramping a nested sequence, after a while there was only a black screen and in the nest I stilll had footage playing. This is so frustrating, people paying for this and working with deadlines are very unhappay right now .
MBP 16 METAL PP V. 14.0

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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That's not nice... playback shows a freezed frame from the beginning of the clip while scrolling or paused will show the right selected part of it.
As said switching to "Mercury Playback Engine Software Only" will fix this but i can not consider it as a work around for a pro software.
Very dissapointing.
MBP16 // PP v 14.0

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Participant ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I just encounter this problem, tried to google it and found this thread. More than year from the first bug report! Nice to see that something is stable in this world.
On the bright side now I know that in this particular case it's not me who is half-assed.

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Advisor ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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There's a workaround. It shouldn't be necessary, but you can finish your project. Nest your clips, render, import, place the rendered clip on the topmost video track. Go back to the sequence containing the nest, and do your speed ramping on the nest. Alternatively, you can replace the nest with the rendered movie file. It's a PITA, but it works.

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Explorer ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Another way to cause the bug is simply to resize the composition, or render out at a different resolution (e.g. add to Media Encoder Queue then change export settings from there, not even from in Premiere).

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I had the same problem with the speed ramped part going black.
It worked out for me to switch to Mercury playback software only, then rendering the nested clip and then switching back to Mercury playback Metal again.
not sure though if this is a permanente solution (just figured it out before posting this comment)

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Please fix this really annoying bug Adobe. Experienced the same bug when using speed ramps with nested sequences.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Why has this not been fixed yet?! I'm running the latest version of PP in 2020 and still having this silly issue.. whether its cache issues or graphics switching or SOMETHING it doesn't mattter! We creatives need our programs to be reliable and working.. It's impossible to work with issues like this. ADOBE FIX THIS ASAP thanks.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I can confirm that if you switch to "Mercury Playback Engine Software Only" in the Project Settings, it does work, but playback is incredibly slow with 4k footage.

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Advocate ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Part of the problem with this bug is that in all the interactions I've had with adobe staff, they have all intimated that the existing behaviour is correct: sort of "you're not holding it right", type feedback.

I have listed this bug at least twice.

Here is a new video demonstrating the problem. I am happy to help with this. I use remapping all the time. For the last 3 years I have been having to render interim files for nested sequences that have layers.If anything is still in anyway not clear, or if anyone thinks this behavior is still as expected, I'm all ears.
https://youtu.be/CoUYqRoHXEo

This is the closest I have ever got at interacting with Adobe staff. Unfortunately they failed to read my post properly, and vanished once hoops had been jumped through:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro/nested-sequence-time-remapping-bug/td-p/9493724?page=1

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