Text Based Editing Error - Multiple Synced Camera Interview Project

Report · Oct 20, 2023

Before I post more, I have spent the entire day chatting and screen sharing with Adobe support on this issue and can confirm this is "just how the program works" according to the last support member.

I am working in Premiere Pro 24 with the new Text Based Editing. This is a genius idea but seems to have flaws when using more than one camera for an interview.

We shoot on 2 matched Sony FX9s and I recently recorded an interview with an A and B camera (tight and wide shot)

When importing into Premiere 24, the auto-transcribe works great. I laid out both camera sources onto a new sequence, synced the shots and that sequence was transcribed. However, when I went to edit the project in Text-Based Editing, it will not work correctly. When either Inserting or Overwriting the selected text into a new timeline, Premiere will paste a copy of the entire media, not just the selected section.

Mulitcam sequence didn't work either. One of the Adobe support staff suggested creating a new project and re-importing and transcribing because he thought it was a gitch.

Opening a clip in the source monitor and inserting/overriding is not an option, as then I lose my second camera altogether.

I can not for the life of me think of a workaround and it was apparent Adobe couldn't either. I can't be the only one using more than one camera for an interview. This issue needs to be addressed.

Any others with this issue or any possible solution I haven't considered?

Photos below for reference:

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Report · Oct 20, 2023

@Stan Jones ... got any ideas?

Report · Oct 20, 2023

@himynameismatt22,

Thank you for your detailed description and screenshots: very helpful.

1 - Turn on the "Automatically set in/out points" icon - the {} symbol at the top of the transcript tab. When "on" there is a faint grey box. You can mostly tell it is "off" because no in/out points are set in the source monitor or program monitor.

I agree this should not be necessary, but it is the easiest way to do Text-based editing.

2 - I tried your steps to replicate the problem when the "set in/out" is off. I selected some text, right-clicked, and clicked insert." This inserted the full clip, not just the selection.

When I used the insert/overwrite buttons at the top of the transcript tab, it worked correctly, and then the right click also worked correctly.

3 - I have not tested multicam/merged clips, and I have seen reports that they do not work correctly. I don't see why the basic functions should not work, but I have not tested.

Let us know.

Stan

Report · Oct 23, 2023

@Stan Jones @R Neil Haugen this solution did work. Thank you! There are still a few kinks I think Adobe needs to work out. When searching in the text, between sources and different open projects, occasionally, the search function will not work.

Report · Oct 23, 2023

Thanks for reporting back. The feedback is helpful to staff; in the Beta versions, these features are being actively extended and improved - and fixed.

What I would call a bug in this current thread is the "when set in/out is off, right-click-insert inserts the full clip, not just the selected part." I have confirmed it is still present in Beta 24.1.0 Build 57. If it is still present when I update to the latest version (today build 66), I'll file a bug in the Beta forum.

Stan

Report · May 17, 2024

On the same topic, referencing the screenshots above, how is matt22 able to select 4 video tracks for source patching? In matt22's screenshot, there are four video tracks and four audio tracks enabled. I only get an option for one video track, four audio tracks. Therefore, I'm only able to insert one camera with audio using TBE. This is the key to using Text Based Editing with multi camera sequences...and I'm unable to figure it out.

In my example, on this particular project, the second camera angle has no audio but is synced using time code. So it's not a perfect example, given that I'm unable to transcribe text for that particular clip. That shouldn't make a difference with the availability of source patching tracks. Am I right?

Also, is it true that I can't use TBE if the cameras are synced using timecode, but one of the cameras doesn't have audio...? That wouldn't make this a very usable feature as I rarely edit a clip with less than two camera angles on a shot.

What am I missing?