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Shucks, I don't get to break the news on anything anymore...
Premiere Pro 4.2 does in fact add AVC-I and offers some additional fixes too. Should be out soon.
Regards,
Dennis
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Antinet wrote:
wow, hope they bring HD export to the mac, and equalize the number of transitions with the PC version, and fix capture, yadda yadda.
HD export on the mac certainly exists now as you can export to just about any codec the Mac sees.
As for the # of transitions - well, I tend to think that the few that we didn't move over don't have that much impact. I tend to think of them as the least used ones, but please tell us if there is a few that are absolutely essential to you.
Premiere might be better than FCP on the PC, but it sure isnt on the mac.
So many things I'd like to say, but shouldn't. In the end, I think we have a very good NLE and one that opens up a lot of possibilities for the future. Still, tell us how we should improve it - we'd like to know what makes you think FCP is better...
Dennis
I'm on it Dennis, I just want to reword it so it sounds like a legit request, not a rant! 
And as far as FCS vs PP CS4, the integration Adobe offers is pretty robust, at least in Windows. C'mon, real-time viewing between apps without rendering? That's hard to beat. Thumbs up for Adobe on that one!
I just want to reword it so it sounds like a legit request, not a rant!
Pauline,
That is the spirit. I fill in Feature Requests quite often for various versions of Adobe programs. I try to keep it simple, point out the need, and then my hope for implementation. Some have born fruit (probably not because of anything that I have written, but just due to volume of such requests), and some are still not yet included. These could be due to other issues, or just a difficult coding problem. I'll likely never know. Still, Adobe does read these, and they go into the database for prioritization. When the developers sit down, they look over these, plus many other reports. I keep the Feature Request/Bug Report link bookmarked, and also share it, as did Curt.
Keep the faith, and keep the communications open to Adobe. I feel that they do listen, and that they do care. Still, there are tons of Feature Requests, so just be patient. Heck, one day there might be a real "pre-flight" in Encore...
Hunt
You know, to the Mac user's defense, I don't know if that wonderful integration in Production Premium is all there like the Windows folks enjoy. It MIGHT be, I don't know enough about the Mac version. Mac folks are going to be very dedicated to FCP I suppose. However, the price for Apple's editor is the same as my upsell cost for the entire Production Premium suite, and look at all the apps I get! And, hardware is cheaper, without question. Bottom line is that I built a screaming i7 rig for $1500 less than the equivalent MacPro. That pays for a full Production Premium CS4. Hard to argue that FCP can be a better choice... what, for a few features here and there? What on earth is only doable in FCP that Premiere and After Effects can't achieve? I can't imagine NOT being able to right-click and shoot a clip on my timeline over to Photoshop CS4 Extended for some rapid-fire editing and then inhale it right back into Premiere. Is that available for the Mac? One thing they lack is the fact that Photoshop is 64 bit in Windows, and it is definitely speedier than 32 bit.
All in all, Premiere vs FCP is probably Ferrari vs Lamborghini... I just prefer a Ferrari hands down.
You know, to the Mac user's defense, I don't know if that wonderful integration in Production Premium is all there like the Windows folks enjoy. It MIGHT be, I don't know enough about the Mac version.
Dynamic Link is the same between Mac and PC users.
Mac folks are going to be very dedicated to FCP I suppose.
Definitely - picking an NLE (or computer platform) becomes a very personal and emotional choice.
However, the price for Apple's editor is the same as my upsell cost for the entire Production Premium suite, and look at all the apps I get! And, hardware is cheaper, without question. Bottom line is that I built a screaming i7 rig for $1500 less than the equivalent MacPro. That pays for a full Production Premium CS4. Hard to argue that FCP can be a better choice... what, for a few features here and there?
Thanks for playing the role of salesman for me! Glad to know that I'm not the only one.. 
What on earth is only doable in FCP that Premiere and After Effects can't achieve? I can't imagine NOT being able to right-click and shoot a clip on my timeline over to Photoshop CS4 Extended for some rapid-fire editing and then inhale it right back into Premiere. Is that available for the Mac? One thing they lack is the fact that Photoshop is 64 bit in Windows, and it is definitely speedier than 32 bit. All in all, Premiere vs FCP is probably Ferrari vs Lamborghini... I just prefer a Ferrari hands down.
NIce.
You know us Jersey guys... call 'em like we see 'em.
I should clarify one statement I made about sending a clip to Photoshop and back to Premiere... when I said "is that available for the Mac", I meant from FCP to Photoshop and back. But I figure you knew that!
I tell ya Dennis, if you've got a 5D2 and you're doing both stills and video, the PP suite is priceless. It doesn't matter how good FCP is, it's too separate. In one environment I can edit stills, build video, twang it in After Effects, even tweak video is Photoshop (every frame in a separate layer!), fix the sound in Soundbooth (and even add an audience track now that SB does multitrack), encode encode encode to outputs all over the place, or, build my DVD in Encore, add killer images to the DVD that I edited in Photoshop, add artwork I drew in Illustrator, and even dump it into a Flash-Ready webpage (let's not forget how much better Bridge is now!). And from a still side, ACR is more insane than ever... the Adjustment Brush alone is worth the price of admission.
How can that be beat? Amongst the video professionals I don't have any experience to bring to the debate table if the subject is only NLE, but after YEARS of audio engineering and still photography, adding the new leg called video to this mix makes the Prod Suite a no brainer, at least for me.
Oh, let's not forget that you can add Audition 3.0 for only $99! And if that wasn't enough, there's still more on the list (On Location, etc).
It's a bee-yoo-tee-ful thing.
As I told you before:
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Eric Addison wrote:
Came across this:
In the 4.2 update there are a couple of major changes in Adobe Media Encoder which could help Encore CS4 in some cases.
Look for 2 CS4 updates, one on Premiere Pro (4.2) and one on Media Encoder (4.2). We are targeting the end of the month.
Testing is going well. A few sneaks: AVC Intra support, FCP 7 Import, and improvements to HD to SD down convert. I’ll do a full write up on my http://blogs.adobe.com.davtechtable as well as new video showing the features and changes.Should post mid Oct.
There goes Dave blabbin!
He's got a great blog with how to videos and will be doing one on the Premiere Pro 4.2 release. I'm playing with Premiere Pro 4.2 but still have yet to grab the Adobe Media Encoder update....You have no idea of how many servers are splattered all over the place!
All of the above is comfirmed.
Dennis
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