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Colors washed out after render - and online after upload?

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December 27, 2016
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I have this issue where my video gets a little de-saturated and washed out after the premiere render. I read about a similar issue with someone else in these forums, there it was suggested that it's Quicktime's issue - and it was! When i changed video player that issue went away (or re-importing it back to premiere after render).

However,

when I upload the video to youtube - it's washed out there?? I tried once through FinalCutPro X render it out in Apple prores for comparison - and once I uploaded it to youtube - no color was lost. The only problem is that Apple prores codec is 13x bigger than H.264. Frustrating.. What do you recommend me to do in my situation? This shouldn't happen, right?

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magistr4815

Inspiring

I found the answer. The problem in the rating of the channel!

Here you can see the video. There are English subtitles.

BrianM824

Inspiring

Thanks for the link, Neil. Upon further investigation, it does seem as though this is definitely an issue with Premiere Pro working in the sRGB color space and over saturating the timeline and export preview because of the iMac's P3 display. This explains why my grading within Premiere looks fine and then undersaturated upon exporting. This is immensely frustrating as there is no other accurate workaround other than to color grade on a sRGB monitor. On a beautiful iMac 5K monitor, doing such completely defeats the purpose. It seems as though the only fix to this issue is for Adobe to enable color management within Premiere Pro. For now, PPro will continue to provide a completely inaccurate representation of what the a video export will actually be on a wide gamut display. How Adobe hasn't enabled a fix for this yet is baffling.

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luke Infinger

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I too have this issue. Why would After Effects allow managing colors but Premiere doesn't? I am going to try the p3 to rec 709 LUT that Chris uploaded and see how that works.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

A lot of people have asked why PrPro doesn't have active color management controls ... I'd suggest making a Feature request. They never reply, however ... all bug/feature forms filed do get distributed in some sort of tabulated form to all the managers who decide engineer time budgets.

https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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David Arbor

Inspiring

ProRes isn't a delivery format. It's an intermediate format which makes editing much easier and it preserves the quality of the source footage—two of the reasons why it's so much larger than H.264, a delivery format. The QuickTime issue you mentioned has been around for years and it isn't going anyway. If you open the file and look at it in something like VLC Player you'll see the proper colors, which you mentioned.

What settings are you using when you create your H.264? Are you using the one of the YouTube presets? If not, that's a good starting point. I do find that YouTube will always add a color shift when it reprocesses the video on its own servers. Instead of getting washed out, my videos usually take on a tinge of red, and I start with the YouTube 1080 preset.

A couple things to check:

1) When you bring the exported file back into Premiere do the colors look exactly the same as they do in your timeline?

2) What export settings are you using?

3) If you want to run a test with FCP X, don't export and upload a ProRes file, use the YouTube publishing options.

If you find that your colors look exactly the same before you upload it then something's going on when YouTube processes your video again.

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Veke1998Author

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Hi! Thanks for the fast answer!

When I bring the exported video back to Premiere - the colors are excactly the same as on the ones on the timeline.

For the export settings I do use the YouTube presets (1080p) where the only thing I changed is ticking the box for "render at maximum depth" and "maximum render quality"

I haven't tried to export from FCPX with the YouTube publishing options, but how do other people get around this issue?

thanks again

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Veke1998Author

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I also noticed that the colors were washed out in FCPX - i had to like bump up the saturation inside FCPX to get closer to the original file inside premiere..

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