Dip to White or Black transitions apply to Program Out instead of just between two clips

[ClintMayers]

Premiere Pro ver 24.0.3 (Build 2) and 24.2.0.34 (Preview)

AMD Ryzen 9 5950X, X570 AORUS Master MB, 128GB RAM

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 Ti

M.2 SSD 2 TB 

Applies to various files and types working with 4:2:0 8-bit formats.

Windows 11 Pro Build 22621

This issue applies in both GPU Mercury Playback Engine GPU acceleration and Software emulation.

To recreate:

1. Create new project

2. Add any three clips.

3. Add any one clip to bottom layer of a timeline.  (drag-and-drop to auto create)

4. Above, that layer, we are going to add the final two videos to create a picture-in-picture with a transition between them.  So, resize them to 50% and leave enough handles for the transitions.

5. Add a cross-dissolve to prove it works as expected.

6. Change the transition to dip-to-white or dip-to-black.

EXPECTED: to just have the transition apply between the two clips.

ACTUAL RESULTS:  dips to white or black apply to the entire Program output, not just the two down-scaled videos placed on a higher layer.   It's as if applying a Matte on the top layer and dippig the opacity from 0 to 100% and back instead of between the clips.

WORKAROUND: Nest clips.  But this is inconvenient.

[Ann Bens · Accepted solution]

It's not a bug (tested it in CS6).

Nest clips with dip to white, then scale this nest down (as you have been doing).

[ClintMayers]

Thanks.  I get the workaround, but it's not logically how I would expect to do transitions.  I'm not sure how this is coded underneath, but as a software developer, I would likely have it work the identical way other transitions are done, such as when using the cross-disolve.  It is on a layer of it's own and should be pre-processed and then, laid on top of lower tracks.  There should be a consistency.  It's inconvenient haviing to nest things and makes it sloppier.

[R Neil Haugen]

The "dip" transitions need the clips to be on same track for "expected" behavior. Which is why Ann suggested nesting.

[ClintMayers]

Thanks.  If you look at the image I provided, I did place the clips on the same track.  It actually works as expected with other transitions, such as, the cross-dissolve.  I already commented that I knew it could nest, but that it's inconvenient and doesn't follow the paradigm of expected use.  It may have been like this for a long time, but I have used the transition before when it was scaled or had a mask applied, but regardless, it's not an expected behavior.

[Ann Bens]

Cross dissolve works with transparency. Dip turns opaque on the entire frame/sequence setting.