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Petrula
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January 12, 2017
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Dynamics Obsolete - Tell Adobe to Reinstate It.

  • January 12, 2017
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Reinstate the Dynamic effect so it is no longer obsolete!

Fill out the

Feature Request/Bug Report Form

Your vote counts. Let Adobe know.

Adobe Premiere Pro CC 2017

The Dynamics audio effect is the most heavily used and important effect I depend on. I have edited over 300 videos for 501(c)(3) nonprofit organizations. All these videos utilize the Dynamics audio effect. I was shocked to see that Adobe Premiere Pro CC2017 placed such an essential effect on the Obsolete list.

Why is Dynamics so important? It was very easy to use, and extremely powerful with compression, limiter, gate, and other features in a single dialog. The controls are very interactive and adjustable on the fly. The compressor level meter (bar) lets me quickly see how much audio compression is used when listening to various sections of the video. End users often ask me why my audio is so consistently good. The Dynamics effect is why. I cannot live without it.

In contrast, the new Dynamics Processing audio effect is missing most of the features of the Dynamics effect. For example, Dynamics Processing lacks the compressor level meter (bar) so interactive compression adjustments are impossible since there is no visible feedback.

Will Adobe in a few releases just remove the Dynamics effect? Will over 300 videos I edited suddenly not be re-editable after spending hundreds of hours carefully adjusting the Dynamics settings for each video. If this happens, I can assure you that thousands of my end users will be vehemently upset as will my bosses.

The Adobe Premiere Forum has numerous threads with people upset about this. As one thread said, "There are a lot of editors that rely on this plugin everyday for it's ease of use.  I work with a team of freelance editors that have limited experience on audio compression/limiting etc... and Dynamics saves my workload for over modulated audio that most editors have no clue on how to mix."

Eliminating the Dynamics audio effect instead of keeping it makes no economic sense. We currently need to acquire more Adobe Cloud licenses for additional video editing staff. Since losing the Dynamics audio effect will cause major headaches, I have been told that those additional licenses are on hold until this issue is resolved favorably by reinstating the Dynamics effect so it is no longer obsolete.

I would encourage everyone to fill out the Feature Request/Bug Report Form to strongly let Adobe know that removing the Dynamics audio effect is not acceptable. Your vote counts. Let Adobe know.

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GPearce10
GPearce10
Participating Frequently
April 22, 2017

Here's how I competed the Feature/Bug form:

How would you like the feature to work?

I'd like it to work just as it always did... just not be on the chopping block.

Why is this feature important to you?

First: I need meters. Especially the Compressor and Expander meters that help me set the threshold for the effect. And overall level meter doesn't provide that feedback.

Second: this tool puts the four audio tools I rely on daily (Gate, Compressor, Expander, Limiter) in one, easy to adjust panel. They all affect each other.

Yes, I rely on my ear to ultimately judge the result of the settings. The metering gets me there faster.

When I looked at the new dynamics tools, my first reaction was "Where are the meters?". I assumed I wasn't looking in the right place. But I never found them.

I'm not opposed to learning new things, but I've got work to do. Is there a good reason to drop the "obsolete" tools? Is there a good tutorial to teach this old dog a new trick?

R Neil Haugen
R Neil Haugen
Legend
April 22, 2017

Great filing.

Giving the team and the managers simply stated, clear reasons something works better "x" way is very good. I have heard that some of the reports they get give very little justification or use, but do occasionally say only how stupid it is not to have "x".

Those reports are not as useful to change minds or illuminate a path. Yours was a very good report.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
    mickeyreliant
    mickeyreliant
    Participant
    February 7, 2017

    Totally with you on this! As one who used to edit tons of local TV commercials, I relied on Dynamics day in and day out. I coupled it with the Loudness Radar to meet broadcast standards and it was a huge time saver. I've requested they bring it back.

    Thanks.

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      PetrulaAuthor
      Inspiring
      February 18, 2017

      mickeyreliant - Thank you for submitting the Premiere Pro Feature Request/Bug Report Form. Be sure to ask your Premiere Pro associates and friends to also submit.

      Remember what Adobe Employee, Stefan Gruenwedel, said, "Adobe product teams do monitor requests made through that feature request/bug report form. The more people post there, the better." Reference

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      PetrulaAuthor
      Inspiring
      January 13, 2017

      Since Dynamics requires no further software development (It is already a finished product), keeping it should have minimal impact on Adobe assigning developer time to integrating Audition with Jim's suggestions. Therefore, it makes no sense to obsolete Dynamics and make life hell for those of us who heavily rely on it for every project. Let's get real. Why take away something that already works and requires no further development.

      For those who utilize Dynamics everyday, please fill out the simple Premiere Pro Feature Request/Bug Report Form asking Adobe to make Dynamics a permanent feature, and not obsolete it. Your vote counts. Adobe prioritizes on how many requests they receive.

        R Neil Haugen
        R Neil Haugen
        Legend
        January 13, 2017

        They've done some rebuilding of sections of the "underlying" code of PrPro, which as the engineers say, is an ongoing process. As they do that, some of the older effects either have to be rebuilt, or the code "bloated" to keep the code those older effects need.

        I would guess that this effect is in that group. So, I do assume to keep it means rebuilding it. Which I wish they would do ... or give us something as quickly, obviously, and useful as this.

        Neil

        Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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          Gordon James McDowell
          Inspiring
          January 13, 2017

          Done.

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          CyndiJ
          Participating Frequently
          January 12, 2017

          I filled out the Premiere Pro Feature Request/Bug Report Form to ask Adobe to bring back the Dynamics effect and take it off the obsolete list. I encourage everyone to do the same.

          Coca-Cola made the same mistake with Coke. But they realized their mistake after users screamed bloody murder. Coca-Cola found a solution with "Classic Coke". Instead of "Obsolete Audio Effects", Adobe should have "Classic Audio Effects". Make the Dynamics effect a permanent feature of Premiere Pro.

          The Dynamics effect is my NUMBER ONE effect. It is the best Premiere audio effect Adobe ever created. I have used it for years. It is like a Swiss army knife - indispensable. If Adobe eventually removes it, whenever I re-edit something, I will have to waste time to redo all my compression, limiting, etc.. This is painful and very costly!

          In the real world, clients often want me to re-edit an older video. Why should I be forced to waste valuable time redoing compression with their inferior Dynamics Processing effect so Adobe can save a few pennies by eliminating Dynamics. This makes no sense.

          Please dear reader. Fill out a Feature Request/Bug Report Form, and demand that Adobe permanently bring back the Dynamic effect so it is no longer obsolete! It worked for "Classic Coke". Why not for Dynamics.

            Ann Bens
            Community Expert
            Ann BensCommunity Expert
            Community Expert
            January 13, 2017

            I dont think there is much point in asking for re-instatement.

            As of now the effect is fully functional.

            As for future versions of Premiere the effect will probably be incompatible, hence the newly written effects.

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            PetrulaAuthor
            Inspiring
            January 29, 2017

            Your vote counts. Adobe Staff employee, Stefan Gruenwedel, said, "Adobe product teams do monitor requests made through that feature request/bug report form. The more people post there, the better."

            Please have EVERY video editor in your organization fill out the

            Premiere Pro Feature Request/Bug Report Form

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            excited_Genie16B8
            Legend
            January 12, 2017

            To be honest, I'm hoping this is one more step in the direction of making Audition a usable part of the Adobe suite of tools.  As it stands, it's just not practical for anyone who doesn't get picture lock, which is probably 99% of PP users.

            For Audition to be usable, we not only need to be able to see the PP sequence (which we can now do with Dynamic Link), but Audition needs to move to non-destructive editing, doing all it's work with metadata that can be processed directly in PP.

            I suspect (hope) that the new audio effects are such a move.  So I'm reluctant to go backwards here.  Things might be awkward for few iterations of the software, but I'm hopeful that things will get better.

            R Neil Haugen
            R Neil Haugen
            Legend
            January 12, 2017

            Great point about the "non-destructive" issue. That was a royal shock to me at first, to have Audition completely over-write the original file audio. "It's the way audio editors work ... " is a pretty lame excuse. There's no need nor use that's better served by the destructive nature of the software.

            Yes, once you know you can get around it. But simply sending media to Audition for a round-trip can be harmful to your 1's and 0's!

            Neil

            Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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            PetrulaAuthor
            Inspiring
            January 12, 2017

            Jim & Neil - I appreciate your feedback about Audition. I wrote this thread to focus on reinstating Dynamics which many of us heavily depend upon. Perhaps, you could discuss your dreams about Audition in another thread. Dynamics is the only existing tool which solves 95% of compression and limiting issues in a convenient dialog. Everyone in the community and at Adobe highly respects you both. Could you both possibly take pity on video editors like us who depend so heavily on Dynamics to fill out the Feature Request/Bug Report Form requesting that Adobe reinstate the Dynamics effect so it is no longer obsolete. It would be greatly appreciated if you also let any of your Adobe Premiere company contacts know of our need to keep Dynamics always available. Thank you for your help.

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