IN/OUT Markers Disappear When Selecting Text In Transcript

[BroskiiFX]

Let's say I have a clip already on the timeline, and I already have it transcribes, but have not created captions for the clips. Right now, I am just searching for keywords in the transcript and cutting out key points from each clip of interviews.

Let's say I open a clip in the Source preview and I want to mark an IN/OUT based on reviewing the text in the Transcript. I click a word I want to set my IN point on and read down until I find the word I want to mark my OUT point on. When I click a word, both my IN/OUT markers get removed, which I feel is fairly inconvenient if I am segmenting clips by going off of the transcript. This feels a bit counterintuitive to me, as if I'm trying to segment clips quickly, this would be a fast way to go about doing so.

Let me know if you need more detail from me or if you cannot reproduce.

This also inspired a feature request, which I will link.

[Stan Jones · Accepted solution]

I'll describe some methods, and it would help if you describe further what you are doing. 

I can't tell if you have the "Automatically set in/out points" turned on in the transcript tab.

One of the main methods is to start with an empty timeline and open the source clip in the Source Monitor. With the "automatically set" on, you do not set each in and out point yourself, but you position the beginning point in the text, and then drag+select or shift-click on the out point, and it selects the text and sets in/out points in the Source Monitor. Then you insert or overwrite to add each segment to the timeline. This builds the sequence as you go.

The second method is to add the clip to your Program Monitor/timeline, and then work in the Program Monitor view of the Source transcription. Here, as you select text and get the in/out points, they are in the timeline, and you use the lift/extract commands to remove unwanted material.

In the second method, you can also copy/cut paste text in the transcript to modify the timeline.

And you can, of course, move from one method to the other and edit using any method.

The in/out points set are always replaced by any operation that sets a new one.

Stan

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hi @BroskiiFX,

Thanks for creating your bug report. Does @Stan Jones explanation work for you? Let the team know. I hope it works for you. I updated the status of the bug report.

Thanks,
Kevin

[Dennis_Wagner8626]

das hat zunächst geholfen, danke. im Text Menü finde ich aber nicht mehr die Möglichkeit das ein oder auszuschalten. 

There’s another problem as well: when I set the In and Out points via the text panel, the resulting cuts in the sequence often leave tiny half-frame gaps between clips. I can only fix them by manually dragging the clips to close those gaps.

This really slows down the editing process, since every cut has to be corrected afterwards.

Attached is a screenshot of the transcript panel’s popup menu — as you can see, the option “Automatically set in/out points” is missing.

[Stan Jones]

@Dennis_Wagner8626,

The "automatically set" option is the {} icon to the right of the search box and filter icon.

From your other post, yes, I think that this is what you are seeing. By design, if that icon is on, when you click and drag in the transcript tab text, it starts a selection, and when you release the drag, it shows the selected in/out points. If you simply click, it cannot set an in/out on that one frame. And if you have in/out set, it clears them. You can work around that by setting the in/out, then turning that toggle off. There is a keyboard shortcut for that function, which is unassigned by default. But for most editing workflows, simply having it on (or off) works as expected.

Regarding your half frame gaps, my first reaction was that you can't have half a frame. Then I realized that you might be using audio units. When I do an Extract operation in the Transcript tab on an in/out, and then zoom fully in on the timeline, I see no gaps. When I change the timeline to audio units and do the same thing, I get a small gap in the audio track and a larger gap in the video track. And remain after I close and reopen PR.

This occurs, in fact, when doing the operation solely in the timeline or on a sequence with no transcript.

I'm on Win 11 PR 25.5.0. I'll try to test in the Beta and post a bug there if it is present.

Stan

[Stan Jones]

@Dennis_Wagner8626,

See my bug post in the Beta forum for my conclusions about the extract gaps.

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta-bugs/extract-leaves-gaps-if-setting-in-out-manually...

When making the post, I forgot that with Audio Time Units I said "This occurs, in fact, when doing the operation solely in the timeline or on a sequence with no transcript."

I don't know how this may apply to your workflow. In your screenshot, you are not using Audio Time Units in the timeline display, and you have "automatically set in/out points" turned ON. But you certainly appear to be describing the gap issue I'm describing.

Stan

[BroskiiFX]

Actually, yes it does. That was not a functionality I was aware of and came across immediately when this feature was introduced, and that makes sense for it to work like that.

[dylanr0gers]

For me, it was that “Automatically set In/Out points button in the Transcript” panel. It's easy to miss; for the sake of others in Premiere 2025 it's situated just to the right of the search field and filter icon toward the top of the transcript panel, with these characters {}.