Premiere Pro prores and windows

[Offbeat Bryce Productions]

I edited a video on a mac with adobe premiere pro. It's in pro res format. I am collaborating with someone on the project and this other person wants to load my project on windows 10. The project opens but it gives an error about how prores isn't supported. I believe it should work. What can I do?

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hi bryced,

You should be able to read the files. What format is the ProRes?

Thanks,
Kevin

[Offbeat Bryce Productions]

QuickTime

[Vidya Sagar · Accepted solution]

Hi Bryced,

What is the version of Premiere Pro in Windows 10?

Native support for reading Prores is a new feature which is available only with latest versions of Premiere Pro CC.

Thanks,

Vidya Sagar.

[troyw23373848]

what do i need to do to export prores through premiere pro cc 2015.3, aftereffects, or media encoder in windows 7?

I have spent hours searching for the answer to this and would love someone at Adobe to provide a clear and simple answer as to this.

I am happy to pay for this support, but without it using adobe apps on PC is nearly useless for me.

thanks for your help.

[Ann Bens]

You cannot export to prores on a windows machine.

You will have to find a different format such as Cineform or DNxHD or take the entire project to a Mac.

[troyw23373848]

is this a permanent thing or is adobe working to address this?

this makes it a lot harder to work with adobe product with this not being supported any more.

I would gladly pay for this as an option or a plugin.

thanks for your help.

[excited_Genie16B8]

ProRes export on Windows has never been legally possible.  Apple does not release the necessary code to make it so.

DNx and Cineform are every bit as good quality-wise, and both have advantages over ProRes.  DNx comes in the superior MXF container, and Cineform is a Constant Quality codec.

[cedric63]

well ... why i've got prores codecs in media encoder ?  it's a real question cause i try to install it on another pc.

[excited_Genie16B8]

why i've got prores codecs in media encoder

On a Windows machine?

Premiere Pro doesn't come that way by default, so it must have been added by someone.  There were two illegal methods of adding it, though.

[David_V_Clarke]

You are not related to the person on this thread are you: [Windows] No option to export as ProRes - Premiere Pro CC 2017/AME CC 2017

Which shows him having the Miraizon codec installed on one machine?

There were some legal ways to make ProRes on Windows.  One still exists in Telestream Switch, which is on the  Apple certified list.  It does not appear in Media Encoder, however.

[R Neil Haugen]

Checking through a number of pages on the Telestream site, I finally found the page of exporting codecs, and it had a sub-note number by the Apple ProRes listing ... go down to that sub-note, and it says:

"ProRes export on Windows is ProRes HQ 4:2:2 for iTunes only."

I can't tell if that means it has to be part of an upload process to iTunes from their sparse verbiage, but that might be a possible limitation. Do you have any experience with this?

Neil

[R Neil Haugen]

He should be able to read in an older version of PrPro/Windows, if he has installed the QuickTime "basics" section, doesn't need the player ...

Neil

[cedric63]

anyway i can't find anymoere to install this

[R Neil Haugen]

Is that a screen-grab of your current codec list, or of a previous one or "borrowed" someplace?

What I'm trying to figure out is if you have the Miraizon codecs on your computer. From reading the material on their site, although the sales of this have ended, if you have the codecs installed (as that screen grab shows) then to use them you should only need to have the QuickTime basic package installed on your PC, and you can install that without installing the QuickTime Player, which should be avoided on PC's now for security issues.

If you don't already have those, "Miraizon sales have ended" as it says on their site, and the ProRes licensed for new buyers is not available.

I checked the Telestream "Switch" product mentioned above, and after reading through a number of screens, found this comment about ProRes exporting: "ProRes export on Windows is ProRes HQ 4:2:2 for iTunes only."

I don't know of any other way to license ProRes on PC's. Apple is a rather jealous kindergartener ...

Neil

[Ann Bens]

The Miraizon codec is no longer for sale.

[Offbeat Bryce Productions]

so what's better? Cineform or DNXHD? I heard there was different versions of DNXHD

[excited_Genie16B8]

There are pros and cons to both.

Cineform is a Constant Quality codec, which I tend to prefer.  This means that if the material only needs 10 bits, it won't use 20 and pad the file.  If it needs 30 bits, it won't be capped at 20 and thus reduce quality.  CQ codecs are the best.  But, Cineform files come out as QuickTime only.

DNx (both HD and HR) comes in the preferable MXF container, and suffers none of the issues the QuickTime container has caused over the years.  But, it's a constant bitrate codec only.

The ideal scene here, the perfect solution, would be Cineform in the MXF container.  Please let Adobe know you want that.

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[R Neil Haugen]

There is another player in the game ... a company has released a beta of their ProRes...

http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=C0CHY&m=3Xp_g.tsE9WHB7V&b=BmKotJg3gLAGGHWZv602lA

A review from a colorist:

http://www.provideocoalition.com/windows-prores-first-impressions/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=...

Neil

[neil wilkes]

https://forums.adobe.com/people/R+Neil+Haugen  wrote

There is another player in the game ... a company has released a beta of their ProRes...

http://clicks.aweber.com/y/ct/?l=C0CHY&m=3Xp_g.tsE9WHB7V&b=BmKotJg3gLAGGHWZv602lA

A review from a colorist:

http://www.provideocoalition.com/windows-prores-first-impressions/?utm_source=newsletter&u tm_medium...

Neil

No longer accepting new sales.

Presumably Apple have unleashed the lawyers, which is stupidity squared as it is not only deprecated by Apple, but is insisted upon by a LOT of TV stations for broadcast.

[excited_Genie16B8]

[ProRes] is insisted upon by a LOT of TV stations for broadcast.

That is what needs to change, here.

Ideas anyone?

[R Neil Haugen]

Dang. Not that ProRes is the greatest ... I've seen some testing done by some high-end production gurus that show that the newer DNxHD/R is actually a better performing codec than ProRes.

Yea, stupid that b-cast stations still insist on the ProRes.

Neil

[Roei Tzoref]

there's a new script for Ae that can render ProRes on windows: AfterCodecs - aescripts + aeplugins - aescripts.com  you could use AE to render your premiere sequence.

[fxc22391]

How can this be legal if all other converters are not??

[excited_Genie16B8]

It probably isn't.  As all the other PC ProRes options seem to have been taken off the market, this will likely follow.