Bring Back the Obsolete Effects

[supersnek5]

In the latest update of Premiere Pro, Adobe removed all the obsolete effects and more. For seemingly no good reason. A lot of these effects were used widely and were very helpful. I, for instance, used the Paint Bucket tool to make strokes/outlines for unique shapes and the Change to Color tool often.

Adobe posted this with alternatives for the removed effects: https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/kb/obsolete-effects-transitions-presets-removed.html#:~:text=As....

But these do not go into detail for how to actually achieve these desired effects. Or the recomended method is more cumbersome and time-consuming than the effect that was removed. What's more, some of the alternative suggestions are a vague "3rd party". Which is so asinine! I don't want to go to a 3rd party and download something to achieve what used to be baked into Premiere! This is such a downgrade and I cannot believe Adobe is happy telling everyone that they have gone backwards in time.

If you look up tutorials for lots of processes, they will mention these obsolete effects that no longer exist. Even tutorials made by or featured by Adobe! The very first link I found to changing the color of a single object was this: https://helpx.adobe.com/ph_fil/premiere-pro/how-to/replace-color.html

This lists a removed effect as the fatest way to complete this! 

Please, Adobe, bring back these effects. Put them in normal folders instead of an Obsolete folder. And stop removing features! 

[R Neil Haugen]

As noted in numerous posts here ... those effects were each used by less than 1% of the user base. Not hardly used by many people, though like you, I did use a couple at times.

Though as it was clear they were going away, I avoided them most of the time out of simple self preservation.

But such low-use things are not coming back in general. They were ancient code, not using the GPU, and for many of the effects touching color the math was bad. Leading colorists simply said avoid them like the plague. As they were 'plague' to our pixels.

So ... if there are things like the paint bucket, please ... post Ideas on fixing the replacement options to get the functionality you are missing.

That is do-able over time. Do something actually helpful.

The "Obsolete" effects are not coming back period.

[supersnek5]

My main is issue is that Adobe removed these features without giving us suitable alternatives. 

For color, HSL is great at changing colors. But! That is only if you don't have a specific color you are trying to change it to. If I have the hex code for a color I need to change an object to, even though it wasn't perfect, the obsolete Change to Color effect was my best option. I wouldn't be upset at Adobe if they updated the coding of that effect or replaced it with a more modern version or expanded Lumetri. But they didn't.

Same with the Paint Bucket. It was a work-around because Premiere doesn't have a stroke option. There have been numerous posts asking to add one. And this update cleaning out the obsolete effects was a perfect opportunity to add one.

I think telling Adobe that the alternative recommendations they have posted about are not up to snuff IS useful feedback. 

If Adobe doesn't have a suitable replacement ready for use, then they should not get rid of an obsolete effect, no matter how small the amount of people who use it. 

[supersnek5]

Sorry; don't know why this posted twice. And I'm unable to delete the duplicate 😞

[R Neil Haugen]

Color Replace doesn't work for you?

[supersnek5]

Color replace didn't work well for me 😞

It couldn't get the whole object, no matter what similarity I set it to. And the parts it was able to change didn't look realistic.

For a recent project I worked on, I re-downloaded the 2023 version of Premiere to use Change to Color after failing to get the look I wanted by HSL or the Color Replace effect. And out of the 3, that gave me the best result. 

[Guva_Man7738]

Yea is dispointing I was going to used the Write-On effects only to find out, it has been remove and I have to used after effect or 3rd party. Why make us jump through so many hoops just to used one effect, if the option isnt hindering the software why remove it and if it is then FIX IT. every step we take for one effect the more time it cost us and overall make the experience worst, and now all the tutorial are useless as well, Adobe please bring back Obsolete Effects.

[R Neil Haugen]

As noted so often, the things in the Obsolete Effects bin were used by less than 1% of the users. And yes, I lost a couple things I used. But for just a very few users, it may not be coming back. That's just reality.

[Guva_Man7738]

Just curious where are you geting your stats from. because a lot of  YouTube tutorial used the Obsolet Effects. Evem if less then one percent of users used it, so they remove it, they why not do the same for every single effects that less then 1% of users used, Either way why remove a future if it isnt hindering the software itself. 

Thats why we are demanding it to be back so we dont have to used multple softwares just for one or multiple effects.

[MyerPj]

As I've said before, it was an act of mercy, Adobe getting rid of the Write-on effect in PP. I didn't work well, and made the user experience worse. It's easy to do with After Effects and it works excellently, check out this 4 minute tutorial:

Write-On Text in After Effects (Easy) - YouTube

[R Neil Haugen]

That was clearly one of the "definitions" Adobe used, that the usage was tiny in relative terms. And staffers have written very clearly here numerous times what those criteria were. No secrets at all, actually almost unusually open about them.

They have to prioritize anything. It's what you have to do. We had to make a lot of decisions over the years in our own business we didn't like. But the decisions were necessary.

Been there.

[Fede221022343kry]

Its very unpractical having to add a whole Lumetri instance only to use the curves, are Lumetri curves any different from RGB Curves? In any case just having the Lumetri curves as an independent effect would be much better as they are used for many effects

[R Neil Haugen]

Curious what you do only working with curves?

[MyerPj]

Among Jarle Leirpoll's cool presets for PP, are presets for Lumetri, with only curves enabled. Gives you a lighter presence on the clip. You can do it yourself, just click OFF each page/tab of Lumetri except curves/or the tabs you are using.

https://premierepro.net/jarles-premiere-pro-presets-version-4/