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FEATURE REQUEST: Audio Nesting

Explorer ,
Apr 05, 2023 Apr 05, 2023

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Hello, Adobe Premiere developers! I'm here to request what seems to be a longstanding-yet-unfulfilled wish for Premiere Pro, thank you for your time. 

 

Community, please chime in with support for this - I know there have been past requests!

 

The Request:

The ability to nest audio clips in a timeline, while preserving the original source cuts in a subsequence, much like we can do with video.

 

Why is this relevant? 

In working with film studios and with entertainment tech, I often create sizzle reels from multiple sources, and also work with composers. In either instance, I may be given dozens of audio tracks which I'd like to comp together as source from the start, since I know the audio won't be adjusted once it's been synchronized,  and yet I want to keep my timeline streamlined. 

  • A composer may provide a dozen separate audio stems that comprise one song, which can quickly fill up a timeline. 
  • If, as a source, I am sent MONO stems for content mixed in 5.1, that's 6 tracks of narration + 6 tracks of dialogue + 6 tracks of music + 6 tracks of SFX. There's another 24 potential tracks in a timeline. 
  • I may create a new sequence from an existing source that is not yet finished, and I know that whether for convenience, or by client mandate: there are occasions where the audio of an entire section is not to be messed with. 

How will the idea help your workflow? 

  • The ability to nest audio in Premiere, just like video, would enable us to keep 'set' audio together as a source, without clogging up the timline with dozens of additional audio tracks that otherwise don't require adjustment in the master sequence. 
  • Using nested audio in a timeline would both protect the structure of that audio in the nested segment (where 'locking' the entire track would be impractical)
  • Would also allowing global changes to happen to all subsequent sources if it was necessary to change the original comped/nested audio. If I create an 'alt' version, and the cut becomes a 2 or more headed beast, it would be amazing to just have to change the audio in once place, knowing it gets updated in all instances where that nested sequence is in use. 
  • The ability to sync up and use nested audio from the start would be a massive timesaver at the end when prepping for a 5.1 or Atmos mix. Current workflow is to either maintain an unweildy amount of timeline tracks from the start, or to manually reconform the audio at the end when prepping - it would be amazing if Adobe could suddenly 'engineer away' that additional audio conforming work by enabling this streamlined approach to audio!

Other details:

  • At best, I've found some workarounds on YouTube that involve adding an adjustment layer, nesting, then dragging the nested sequence back into the original timeline.
  • Whether I'm doing something different, or something in Premiere changed to prevent it, this still seems to pull in all of the original, multiple tracks of audio, along with the nested video (instead of nesting it all down to a single track). 
  • I'm on v23.2, occassionally dipping into the latest beta (great work on the auto-transcribe & transcript-based editing functionality btw). 

 

 

 

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Explorer ,
Apr 05, 2023 Apr 05, 2023

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oof - forgive my typos!

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Apr 06, 2023 Apr 06, 2023

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Apparently, Audio Nesting was a thing in CC2018! Found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTz2z1fspg0

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