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Jill_C
Braniac
August 6, 2018
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Inconsistent Image Review Process (IP)

  • August 6, 2018
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A week or so ago, my image of the memorial monument (called Soul Consoling Tower) at Manzanar National Historic Site was accepted. Today, a similar image taken from a different perspective and in portrait rather than landscape orientation was rejected for "Intellectual Property Refusal". It's a cemetery monument at a public site, so I'm not sure why it is considered IP. Anyone have any idea why one image is accepted and another rejected?

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Correct answer MatHayward

The watermark was on neither of the images submitted to Adobe. The monument/shrine is definitely not personal and private. It is located at the Manzanar National Historic Site in the Eastern Sierra (where Japanese prisoners were interred during WWII). Photography is allowed (and encouraged) everywhere throughout the site, even inside the museum. The characters translate to "soul consoling tower" which is how I titled the image.


Even if photography is encouraged, that does not mean that "commercial" photography is allowed. The moderation team is made up of many individuals. We cannot know the specific permissions allowed by all locations in the world therefor in many cases we are required to make a judgement call based on past experience with other images of a similar nature. In most cases, the moderators are told to err on the side of caution. I'm sure that is what happened here. My opinion is that both photos probably should have been rejected. This is clearly a structure designed and created by someone which makes it their intellectual property. It is clearly recognizable and does not appear to be more than 120 years old.

-Mat

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Ricky336
Braniac
August 8, 2018

In my opinion, the only logical conclusion is the inscription. This makes the image identifiable - therefore you would need a release for the image. So, it was probably an oversight by the moderator. Other structures like the Golden Gate Bridge probably come under a different category.

The whole topic of IP rights, I think is a can of worms!

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Abambo
Braniac
August 9, 2018

ricky336  wrote

The whole topic of IP rights, I think is a can of worms!

I think we can agree on that...

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
joanH
Inspiring
August 10, 2018

Yes! JH

Abambo
Braniac
August 7, 2018

JC926  wrote

Anyone have any idea why one image is accepted and another rejected?

A different reviewer with a different view on the subject.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Jill_C
Jill_CAuthor
Braniac
August 7, 2018

That's my assumption, but there doesn't seem to be a way to question their decisions...

Jill C., Forum Volunteer
jacquelingphoto2017
Braniac
August 7, 2018

Hi JC,

We probably be able to help you figure it out if we'd seen the images. However you might be able to do so after going through Property release and protection guidelines for Adobe Stock . Also look through Known image restrictions and tagproducts_SG_STOCK-CONTRIBUTOR_i18nKeyHelppagetitle . I hope this helps.

Best wishes

JG

Jill_C
Jill_CAuthor
Braniac
August 7, 2018

First image was accepted; second image was refused as an IP violation.

Jill C., Forum Volunteer
jacquelingphoto2017
Braniac
August 7, 2018

Hi JC

These images are really nice. I am not sure about the writing on the monument since I do not speak that language, however I can safely say your image was rejected because of the signature. Apparently the moderator did not notice it on the portrait because its done in the color of the image. That is clearly an oversight. The other however was done In in the lighter area and is more noticeable. If the signature is yours, you'll need to upload images without your signature. Do's and don'ts for selecting and editing photos for Adobe Stock will give you a summary of guideline for you to follow. Read all the information on tagproducts_SG_STOCK-CONTRIBUTOR_i18nKeyHelppagetitle as well as links attached and also the links attached to the "Adobe Contributor Guide" PDF. Also you'll find Property release and protection guidelines for Adobe Stock helpful.

I hope this helps

JG