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Hi there,
I have recently joined Adobe Stock Contributor community and I got 4 out of 50 photos accepted, which is a decent approval ratio for a beginning. However, I am curious why 2 of these 4 photos got rejected:
Photos were rejected with this reason:
"Common issues that can impact the technical quality of images include exposure issues, soft focus, excessive filtering or artifacts/noise. "
There was no filtering other than regular cropping and photo editing in Lightroom.
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4 out of 50 is NOT a good acceptance ratio. These 2 images are poorly composed, not completely in focus, and have a White Bakance issue in that they're too yellow,
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My bad my friend.... 4 out of 50 were REJECTED. 46 were accepted. Pardon me.
Thanks you for the remarks. Although composition is somewhat debatable, you can see rule of thirds being followed in 2nd picture (cream on top sits there; also you can split picture in half diagonally ), while 1st one dives into macro world, although we can agree that the composition may not the best.
In regards to your remarks on White Balance, the bread itself is strongly yellow, while you can clearly see parts of the plate in original white bellow. There are no white balanse issues, just artistic preference that image should go towards warmer tone.
And in regard to your remarks on focus.... It's clearly not "out of focus", just depends on what you prefer to be in focus. For me it is the part where cream starts melting in the 1st picture, and the 2nd one stays in focus for the most part actually.
I would accept 1st one was poorly composed because of focus in "wrong" place, but I really don't see either focus, white balance or composition problems with the 2nd one.
Once again, thanks the reply and remarks.
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I am not on the moderation staff and cannot tell you exactly which flaw in the images caused them to push the reject button, but really it does no good to argue with me regarding why it was rejected. The images are also rather noisy, which is easily detectable when you zoom in. Any of these issues could have caused the rejection. As to composition, leave some breathing room around the edges of your frame. A Buyer can always crop in if needed, but they can't uncrop. Try to keep the Buyer's perspective and potential use for your images in mind.
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You are always welcome to disagree with out opinions, but bear in mind that doing so won't get your assets accepted. 🙂 It's always best to take any suggestions to heart, edit them based on the critiques, and re-submit.
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Hi both,
Thanks for the suggestions regarding breathing room and buyer's perspective. Will try to keep that in mind. Of course I am not here to argue, but exchange opinions and look for ways to meet the requirements.
So in other words @daniellei4510, when an image is rejected, there is no "other opinion" but rather "take it as it is" and try re-submitting?
One more question - are images approved by real people, or scanned by AI?
Regards,
Nikola
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Moderation is done by humans, though there may be some initial screening using AI tools. Moderator's opinions are final and there is no opportunity for you to dispute those findings. If you are able to edit the images to remove the flaws, you can then resubmit them. Resubmitting them "as is" and hoping for a better outcome next time is considered spamming and can result in your account being suspended.
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Got it @Jill_C , thanks for the heads up.
Anyway, I would say 46/50 submitted photos is still nice start for me. Looking forward to post more, but I think I've hit some weekly limit.
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@Jill_C correctly answered your question. Good luck going forward!
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So in other words @daniellei4510, when an image is rejected, there is no "other opinion" but rather "take it as it is" and try re-submitting?
By @nikola_3087
Yes, but you should address the issues in your asset before resubmitting.
I've checked your second, and found several issues, each of them may trigger a refusal. The most obvious one, when looking at 100% at your asset: you have massive artefacts and noise that needs absolutly to be addressed.
In addition, the ice cream is overexposed, you should get the exposure down. And you have sensor dust (upper area, near the border of the picture). This will need to be addressed for some pictures. It's an easy fix, if there are not to much stains. If you have a lot of this, you should consider a sensor cleaning.
Before submitting an asset, you need to check it at 100%, sometimes 200% and fix errors you see. After a while you will know where to look at first. As an example: high ISO shots wich are underexposed will show always a high noise level, and depending of your autofocus, may also experience focussing issues.
As a side note: You can forget the boiler text of the refusal, that is never targeted to your asset, but is always the same. The only thing the moderator select is the refusal reason: Quality issues, IP violation, Commercial appeal, ... Similar assets. And even sometimes, they err in that selection. And they refuse on the first error they see, so there may be many, and there may be many different reasons.
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Composition is too tight. Give some room for the buyer to make their adjustments. Like cropping as tight as these are, or adding text, etc.
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Quality & technical issues covers a wide list of factors. Any or all can impact an asset's suitability for commercial use.
White balance:
https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography/discover/white-balance.html
Depth of field:
https://photographylife.com/what-is-depth-of-field
Hope that helps.
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Hi @nikola_3087 ,
Both files have similar issues. You could improve on the depth of field. The blur in the forefront is distracting.
They are both extremely noisy. It appears you tried to add sharpness in post processing, which adds noise to the edge of the files, plus the rest of the files are noisy.
You could increase exposure a little and reduce highlights in post processing to address the underexposure.
Zoom in at 100% to observe these flaws.
Please note:
There is no strict rule of third observance when taking photos for stock. You may apply the rule to some of your frames if you wish. However, there must be enough room around the subject for the customer to crop it from it's background and you must not crop the subject while taking the shot.
Best wishes
Jacquelin
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Hello,
You may well disagree, but the white balance is off. The picture is too yellow, as if it were taken under artificial light; it's too yellow!!
Something like this, I think, would be better.
White balance is a part of the quality rejection reasons!!
The composition could be better in these two shots as well.
However, this is just an opinion.
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Congratulations on the great acceptance rate.
As you have experinece already, everyone has an opinion.
The main issue I see for rejection is the noise in your photos, which I suspect is the result of 640 ISO and perhaps too much sharppening in post. Why did you use tha ISO? If you used a tripod and use a 2 sec timer you could have used 1/30 sec, keep the same f stop and cut your ISO 2 stops less.
Are you using Adobe Photoshop? The denoising tool in camera raw is Great, and could make your rejected photos cross the finish line. If you can see my attachment you will see what I did to the noise with camera raw.
My other suspicion for rejection is the burnt pie... A buyer like a baker or restaurant may simply not want to convey that. With Adobe's AI tools you can also easily fix that in seconds.
Most people here will agree that the most difficult challenge for contributors is the sometines inconsistency in acceptance and rejections. In the end, it's the result of overwhelming number of submissions, and I suspect AI triggers flagging photos that are indeed very suitable for stock. I don't bother to ask anymore why a photo was rejected, if I feel very strongly against the rejection, I change someting even if minor and resubmit.
One big piece of advice, shoot video of as much as you can, it will add nicely to your earnings.
Cheers!
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One big piece of advice, shoot video of as much as you can...
By @ZALEZPHOTO
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Blanket advice is useless. Many contributors don't have the requisite equipment, skills or software for making videos.
Better advice is to do what YOU do best. 😁
Submit only highest quality content.
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Nancy, I know photographers who 25 years ago were in their 60's and decided they would never
try going digital. I bet today there're are photographers in their 60's saying they will never use AI tools for editing.
Did you know most cinematographers have roots in still photography?
Shooting video is a natural progression for any still photographer, and Every contributor shooting stock today already has the equipment to shoot great video, and AI tools capable of editing flawlessly.
Consider the Irony of saying my advice is a blanket statement. It's okay if you're not interested in shooting video or want to increase your income from stock...
but I assure you,
You don't know what you're missing!
Happy New Year!
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1. My profession is video!
2. I'm saying what I said already. Not everyone here has what it takes to create commercial video clips for Stock.
If you do, great. If you don't, that's fine too.
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It seems to me that you're oblivious to insisting on pushing your beliefs and opinions onto others.
Ofcourse everyone should do what they feel and like, and Never be pushed to do anything they don't want to do:
I respect that you for whatever reason choose not to shoot video, what I don't understand or agree with, is insisting on "censoring" or debating my bigger point.
EVERYONE who already contributes photography is capable of contributing video. But if fear of not knowing how to edit or any personal doubts they can do it,
it's not the reason to not even trying it.
Btw, I have may videos submitted by that I shot with my iPhone that were unplanned.
Again, I already respect your choices, please try respecting my blanket advice to others.
cheers!
This video was approved this morning, shot And edited with an iPhone from a 17th floor
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By the way preview is not working:
It won't be fixed due to the fact that the platform is moving to a new platform.
Regarding still and shooting video - different horses for different courses, as the idiom goes!
And in this case, 'one size fits all' doesn't always apply!
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Yes, cinematography is a different beast, in that parts are moving, but the feeling is not that different than shooting stills.
One thing is to try it and not like it, and another is to say it's not for you having never tried it, specially bc you don't know how to handle the editing.
Newer iPhones have an UNBELIEVABLE stabilizer built in for video, that takes care of the huge camera shake impediment.
Too bad the video doesn't play, it's only 6 seconds of a wave runner at full speed from the 17th floor with the telephoto lens on my iPhone. To get that shot with a camera, you would need a good fluid head on your tripod, shooting with at least a 160mm lens.
the shot is very smooth and flawless...
And here is the catch, if we are already shooting stills, not trying some video makes little sense, specially if it's a scene that will likely sell.
Anyone that is afraid bc they don't know how to handle the footage, feel welcome to message me directly and I will happily guide you on how to prep your workflow
with the gear you already own.
Next week though, I'm about to embark on a 4 day New Years cruise, where now I'm even more encouraged to shooting a lot of b roll stock videos with my phone.
Cheers!
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Newer iPhones have an UNBELIEVABLE stabilizer built in for video, that takes care of the huge camera shake impediment.
Too bad the video doesn't play, it's only 6 seconds of a wave runner at full speed from the 17th floor with the telephoto lens on my iPhone.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
Sure, the iPhone is better in video than in photo, at least for stock requirements. That is because moving objects "hide" the flaws of the small sensor.
But I don't know of any TV series that was filmed with an iPhone. Some series have been filmed with a camera, however, since Canon started delivering good quality images at a relatively affordable price with the 5D Mark II. Nevertheless, a cameraman is a cameraman and a photographer is a photographer, and not every photographer feels comfortable operating a film camera.
But yes, if you have the tools, you can try it. It's OK.
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It seems to me that you're oblivious to insisting on pushing your beliefs and opinions onto others.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
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The pot calling the kettle black.
YOU WROTE: "One big piece of advice, shoot video of as much as you can..."
Stop preaching the gospel according to Francisco. You're not going to convert the choir.
Still photographers, 3D & vector graphics artists aren't giving up what they do best to shoot video. Nor should they.
Your narrow world view isn't applicable to everyone. Contributors come from many different disciplines. Accept it and move on.
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Happy New Year to you Nancy!
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Nancy, I know photographers who 25 years ago were in their 60's and decided they would never
try going digital. I bet today there're are photographers in their 60's saying they will never use AI tools for editing.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
There are photographers who say that they shoot JPEG and don't edit their photos, because they are proud to get it "right in the camera". The pictures are accordingly. 25 years ago, I did not go to digital, because the quality was less good then what I got from my film camera. But digital was used, and I hired photographers with a Hasselblat and a digital back for doing quality pictures in digital.
Did you know most cinematographers have roots in still photography?
By @ZALEZPHOTO
So what?
Shooting video is a natural progression for any still photographer, and Every contributor shooting stock today already has the equipment to shoot great video, and AI tools capable of editing flawlessly.
By @ZALEZPHOTO
Having good pots and pans does not necessarily mean you are a good cook.
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