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January 22, 2023
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people. There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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jHolland45

Participant

I removed a railing on a boat that I was in when I took a picture of an island with a lighthouse. The blue sky had a textured pattern everywhere that the railing was in the sky. The land (island) and water were fine. I tried to remove the textured area to no avail.

johnrellis

Legend

@jHolland45: "I removed a railing on a boat that I was in when I took a picture of an island with a lighthouse. The blue sky had a textured pattern everywhere that the railing was in the sky."

There are two possible causes of this:

- Did you apply Remove on top of a Sky mask? If so, do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings. (In general, Adobe wants you to apply Remove first, then masking.)

- Sometimes Remove's replacements don't quite match the surrounding sky or other uniform backgrounds. You can try making the selections around the railing much larger to include larger sections of the sky, and/or you can make the selections raggedy (don't use Object Aware). See these two examples:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-early-access-available-across-all-surfaces/m-p/14737021#M372323

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-early-access-available-across-all-surfaces/m-p/14724594#M371669

If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

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Sandra37160136ozuy

Participant

I tried batch removal but all files were skipped.

johnrellis

Legend

@Sandra37160136ozuy: "I tried batch removal but all files were skipped."

That's a poorly written, confusing message. When you copy Generative Remove settings to other photos, the settings must be updated (recomputed), but LR doesn't do that automatically in this "early access" (beta) feature. So go to each target photo where you copied the results, open the Remove panel, and click Update All.

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serendigity

Known Participant

I mask out things to rempve like lamp posts and the corners of unwanted buildings, and I get variations on what is there. Please include a REMOVE option to make it clear to the AI what I want. As it is, the feature is very very hit or miss in removing unwanted elements of my photos.

johnrellis

Legend

@serendigity: "As it is, the feature is very very hit or miss in removing unwanted elements of my photos."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

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Andrei224113123dx3

Participant

Incredibil. Super instrument

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dave38605869uy4h

Participant

This feature is legit the best thing i have ever seen. I am a long time LR user, and wedding photographer. Being able to remove people in photos (guests taking photos down isle, second shooter, etc) is UNREAL.

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DTungate

Participant

I can't seem to select the 1st variation with the enter key - after I move through the variations the enter key will select the variation I have open. I'm using Classic on Windows 11. This is truly an amazing feature!!

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Gerard6363

Participant

Bien compris

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Whoisbenjamin

Participant

It would be great if you could circle an object with the heal tool and automatically fills it with the selection. This could make in initial selection more precise and save time with brushing around to cover large areas.

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Corniger

Inspiring

Definitely, but if so, only combined with a keystroke - Ctrl, Alt or something. I have to revove tons of fine hair spreading around on ears etc with a fine brush, having that auto fill might be catastrophic

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yDrink

Participant

Generative Ai was amazing at first, but now when I try to remove an object (ex. foot, branch, hand, ball) from my image, it replaces that with an Ai version of the same object (a different foot, branch, hand, ball, etc) instead of whats surrounding it (grass, dirt, rocks, etc). Quite dissapointed as this was expremely helpful for those moments I wasn't able to crop something out.

Ian Lyons

Community Expert

@yDrink

Removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g. a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

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Annie38369804a1jp

Participant

Hi, my AI remove can't work😬

Ian Lyons

Community Expert

@Annie38369804a1jp

You'll need to provide more information on what your trying to do and in what way it doesn't work. It would also be helpful if you uploaded a screenshot showing what is failing. Use the Insert Photos button (see attached) to upload your screenshot. This linked tutorial provides some tips on how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

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