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I see you deleted my post. Fair enough. I just wanted to be sure to let you know, my reference was in no way related to your heritage, it was only a reference to the prevention of free speech and thinking.If you were offended by the choice of reference, due to (my presumption of) your heritage, I humbly apologize.hopper
The Topic Header says it all.But to repeat:If the US Constitution bans Congress from making laws to repeal free speech, who are you to ban free speech?
The lawyers state that a moderator can moderate... IOW attempt to bring a thread back to the original topic, tone down heated exchanges, etc. They have no right to arbitrarily delete posts, lock threads, etc. These constitute a violation of the First Amendment. The only cases where they may delete a post is if it's racially, religiously, genderly or personally, etc. abusive. In which case they must state the reason, in detail, for deleting the post. The same applies to locking threads. A moderator cannot under the First Amendment lock a thread just because he/she feels like doing so.Any infringements of the above are subject to litigation. And, as mentioned earlier, the litigation can be filed both against Adobe and the Moderator (for lack of a better term), or either.
I've been following this forum for a few days now... and i've noticed there seems to be an arbitrary (disputed or not) locking of threads and deletion of posts. This amounts to a violation of the First Amendment of the US Constitution, which guarantees the right of free speech.I've spoken with a Constitutional Lawyer (Constitution of the US of A), who says that notwithstanding whatever guidelines are laid down in the Forum FAQs, or whatever, as long as posts / threads are not race / gender / religion / personally overtly abusive, any blocking of these, in any form, are infringements of the First Amendment. ie. the Right to Free Speech.As such, they are subject to prosecution. I have further clarified, that notwithstanding, any guidelines laid down, as long as there is no abuse of the above (and more categories) all the people, such as moderators, infringing on those rights, are liable to prosecution. Furthermore, as Adobe is the host, despite their disclaimer to this being a user-to-us
The Locker phenomenon... once again! http://forums.adobe.com/thread/490990?tstart=0
It seems that the cookbook forum should be a sub-forum of the flex forum, instead of being placed inside Adobe General Forums...
I did post a reply here:http://forums.adobe.com/thread/490158?tstart=0Saying how good it was that the thread was neither locked nor moved... and congratulating Jochem (yes, he'd already posted)... Now the thread is locked and my post has vanished...Somethings will never change... PS: Wonder how long this remains before it's deleted?
Why Illustrator has not provide an update for over 3 Years?The last 2 version of Illustrator CS3 and CS4 came with critical bugs but Adobe has not provide an update. People keep saying they have to go back to CS2 to do the job that CS3 or CS4 cannot do.Why other programs like Photoshop have a lot of updates, but Illustrator does not?
Adobe Premiere Pro 4Im sorry that this post is in the wrong section, maybe someone could move it. I did not see an Adobe Premiere Section. And at this point in the day my patience and resolve has worn thin. Im sorry.After hours of struggling with this program, with no knowledge of it prior to today I may add. I am giving up and exporting a video at 720x480 when I would like it to be saved at 1360x768. I was actually quite impressed with myself that I was able to get this far. Adobe has always been some what challenging and not as user friendly as I would like their excellent products to be for myself.I figured out how to create a new custom sequence with the video dimentions that I wanted. I even found out where the .xpr files save. The issue Im having is editing the .xpr file. I cannot for my life seem to figure out how to do this. I even tried opening it up the place holder and manually changing the variables to what I wante
I was in the Acrobat Forum. Clicked "back" to get to the main page. And it looked like this:I had to do a refresh to get the page to display. Anyone else seen this one before?
I am not able to find the page from where I can download the updates of CS4 products. For e.g. I am to find update for the following products like: Adobe Photoshop CS4 11.0.1 update - multiple languages http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4291Adobe Flash CS4 Professional Update (10.0.2) http://www.adobe.com/support/flash/downloads.html#flashCS4 Adobe InDesign CS4 6.0.2 update http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/detail.jsp?ftpID=4434 But I don’t know from where to get the updates for rest CS4 products Illustrator CS4, Dreamweaver CS4, Captivate CS4 and WebStandard CS4. Could you please provide me the URL?
Apologies in advance if this is the wrong forum to be posting/asking this.What happened to the RSS feeds? They seem to have disappeared after yesterday's outage - is everyone else seeing the same? Is this permanent, or a temporary glitch? Was there an announcement that I missed?
Your post, your thread, you identity may be:1/ Deleted2/ Locked3/ Moved4/ Subjected to various other fates(The above is in alphbetical, not order of importance.)It's very strange... i've been a visiting these forums since about 1999. Photoshop and Dreamweaver (yes, i know that DW was different and amalgamated only a few years ago).Was always an NNTP user, except for the Illustrator (Windows) web forum which i started frequenting in 2005.That particular forum i always visited through the web interface. Why? Not sure. A different experience... less posts than in the PS and DW forums made it viable.. ??So, it's about 10 years...In all those years i have never come across the sheer hostility, arrogance, blinkered thinking and knee-jerk reactions that seem to be the hallmark of the moderators in this forum. They don't seem to think, they don't seem to care. Most of all they don't seem to realise that at least about 80% (correct me if i'm wrong) are old timers letting off steam... old timers
I count at least four threads about moving threads. If you're going to regiment, do it right, get the broom out - this mess must be torturing you
And how?
Last time the favicons went green (like they are now) the forums went down for a few hours.
As the "new & improved" search function is not yet ready for "prime time," I find myself hunting the fora for that ONE article that will solve a poster's problem. On the busy fora, this article might be 4-5 pages into the forum. If you navigate to, say page 4, and then actually look at any article, you are then dumped back to page 1, if this is NOT the one you want. Heaven help you, if you post to something beyond page 1. If I have navigated to page X, I want to be able to return to page X and NOT have to navigate back to that spot. First, you see only pages 1 & 2. You need to hit Next to open things up a bit, and often Next again. Was I on page 6, or was it 7? Now, I have to look to see if I recognize the titles.Please, whatever it takes, if one has gone to page X, let them have a way to get back to page X without the gyrations. This is obscene.HuntPS - it is especially bad, when it's taking 1-2 mins. to just load a page on a T-1. When one is a old, as I am, it's tough to reme
It seems like a trend is developing to put most of your question in the title. Feedback forum is an example, and photoshop fourm is getting more posts that way. It results in fewer posts per page. This would be less of a problem if the subject column size was larger (like how many times has that been asked for).Perhaps the title block should be limited to a certain number of characters if the page window can't be expanded.
... I wanted to see if anybody else has this problem -- but umm... I can't search it. This is the error I get:An unexpected error has occurredThis functionality has been disabled by your administrator.
It is now 8:36PM AZT (Arizona Time = PST now), and it's taking about 1 - 2 mins. to load a page on most fora. Last time that this happened, the Adobe servers went down, or were shut down.As it is the end of a 3-day weekend in the USA, there does not seem to be much traffic on many fora. Our Euro and Asian friends are fast asleep, or we can only hope so. There are not that many posting from OZ, or NZ.I am guessing that unless some of the other fora are as active as can be, this is a harbinger of something to come.Hunt
I've uploaded stuff in July and the QA team still hasn't approved it. Any thoughts?
So what forum faults did they fix in the extended down-time?I assume that is what it was for.
Start up 3rd party forums elsewhere for a few major Adobe products, with software that meets these requirements:- Must work(i.e. Any forums other than Jiveware. )Everybody knows competition makes you better, perhaps that's what Adobe needs right about now. Problem solved!
I realise that everyone, well a lot of people are commenting on the slowness of this forum (there this post now applies to this forum) and the forums in general. A particular example was yesterday when, for a long while, no one could even find them.I wonder though, if we're all barking up the wrong tree? Could it be that, in fact, the forums are so blazingly fast they've left us behind?Time-shift. Maybe these new servers are time-shift ones. We're on today's time and they're already on tomorrow's? And maybe, just maybe, if we're very lucky we may catch up sometime in the future. And maybe that's what finally hppened... they slowed down and we caught up...On the other hand, given the nature of time-shift it could be that while we're on today's time, they're on yesterday's?Thanks due to 'the_wine_snob', aka Hunt, who opened up this line of thought.
ProsIt may be more convenient to the user (IF they can figure out they have a PM, and IF they can relocate the thread)ConsJive thread movement BUGS and caching "issues"Jive incorrectly implements thread moving: good forum software leaves a link in place of the former thread that redirects to the correct forum. This ensures that the user can find their original post, and also makes it clear and obvious to the user that they are switching forums (instead of being magically switched to another forum without even noticing). Even better, it could be done so only the OP can see that shortcut link, if done correctly. i.e. The Jive design team is being lead with the IT equivalent of Forrest Gump.User confusion (not just of the OP, but of those who were attempting to assist them in the original forum)It is more impolite and condescending to forcibly move their post, than simply directing them to the correct forum and asking them to copy and paste their post--OR asking them if they'd
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