P: Shortcut CTRL + ALT + O (Show Loupe Overlay) doesn't work

[YannigVdW]

Hi,

Since the Lightroom Classic 13.4 update I can no longer trigger the Show Loupe Overlay using the keyboard shortcut CTRL + ALT + O.

It still works using the menu (View > Loupe Overlay > Show).

Another update, another new bug I guess 😜

[GoldingD]

Went in and tested. Note LrC v 13.4, Windows 11

1. Selected an image
2. Was in Library Module
3. Was in Loupe
4. Pressed CTRL + ALT + O.
5. Nothing occurred
6. Brought up /View/Loupe Overlay
7. Noted that Show was grayed out
8. Selected Grid
9. Loupe View showed the grid
10. Then pressed CTRL + ALT + O.
11. Keyboard sequence worked
12. Brought up /View/Loupe Overlay
13. Noted Show was no longer grayed out
14. Tried to repeat, error did not occur
15. Closed Lrc, Opened LrC, error did not repeat.

[Rick Spaulding -]

@GoldingD  That was my experience as well. I will ask the product team if I should write it up... 

[John R Ellis]

I observed the same behavior as @GoldingD.

So the workaround seems to be: In Loupe, do the menu command View > Loupe Overlay > Grid, and from then on the command View > Loupe Overlay > Show and its shortcut Ctrl Alt O work correctly.

[John R Ellis]

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On the other hand, the workaround doesn't work in Develop. There, the menu command  View > Loupe Overlay > Show is not greyed out, and it works correctly. However, the shortcut Ctrl Alt O doesn't work (Windows).

The problem is that LR 13.4 assigned the same shortcut to two different commands in TranslatedStrings:

"$$$/AgDevelop/Menu/Photo/ToggleObjectAware/Key=Cmd+Option+o"
"$$$/AgLibrary/Menu/View/EnableLoupeOverlay/Key=Cmd+Option+o"

The latter is used by View > Loupe Overlay > Show in both Library and Develop.

* On Windows in Develop, Ctrl Alt O toggles Remove > Object Aware, regardless of whether the Remove panel is open.

* On Mac in Develop, Cmd Alt O invokes View > Loupe Overlay > Show, regardless of whether the Remove panel is open.

A workaround is to use the Any Shortcut plugin to reassign the shortcuts -- it will be updated to LR 13.4 no later than tomorrow.

The product team really should use Any Shortcut to manage LR's shortcuts -- it would have detected this error before release (as well as the dozens of other errors I've reported in the last couple of years).

Screenshots showing the multiple assignments of the shortcut in Windows and Mac:

[Rick Spaulding -]

Thanks for the report. We were able to repro. 

Work around: Choose View > Loupe Overlay > Show from Menu bar and it will work normally.

[YannigVdW]

CTRL + ALT + O works in Loupe, but never in Develop.

Sadly, I'm a Develop/keyboard kind of guy, so there's no useful workaround for me.

[John R Ellis]

@YannigVdW: "CTRL + ALT + O works in Loupe, but never in Develop."

You could use the Any Shortcut plugin to assign another shortcut to the View > Loupe Overlay > Show command.  

Unfortunately, you can't un-assign Ctrl Alt O from the Toggle Object Aware command, since Adobe hardwired that assignment into LR.

[marcor82984597]

Hallo,

13.4 Windows 11 Bibliotheksmodus

Der Tastaturbefehl Lupenüberlagerung strg+alt+o geht nicht mehr, da die strg Taste eine neue zuweisung bekommen hat.

[dj_paige]

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-shortcut-ctrl-alt-o-show-loupe-overlay-doesn...

[John R Ellis]

Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography, @Rick Spaulding -, please merge with this existing bug report:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-shortcut-ctrl-alt-o-show-loupe-overlay-doesn...

[Carlos_Oliveras]

This one has been driving me crazy for months... until I found this thread. Thank you Johnrellis for explaining the cause of the problem. Now I that know, I've been able to go and redefine the shortcut manually in TranslatedStrings_Lr_en_US.txt, assigning a different one to ToggleObjectAware. I can't believe that one of my most used shortcuts is finally working again!!!!

Still, I hope this one gets officially fixed without people having to change things manually, thanks.

[YannigVdW]

Where do I find this file, "TranslatedStrings*.txt"?

When I search in explorer I can only find this as part of the XRiteColorChecker plugin, and this file doesn't contain the "ToggleObjectAware" string.

Something like this should be possible to fix in a next minor update, isn't it?

[John R Ellis]

"Where do I find this file, "TranslatedStrings*.txt"?"

See here for how to manually edit the file. Or use the Any Shortcut plugin to do it for you and figure out which shortcuts you want to reassign.

"Something like this should be possible to fix in a next minor update, isn't it?"

It's a trivial amouont of effort to fix. But Adobe rarely announces ahead of time when/if they'll fix a bug.

[ViscontiBags]

I haven't been able to use this shortcut for a few months now. It's really annoying when I have hundreds of photos to edit and each time I have to search for an option buried in the menu.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Greetings all, 

A new update for Adobe Photography Products has been released.  The October (MAX) update contains an update for this issue. 

If you do not see the update in your Creative Cloud Application, you can refresh it by hitting [Ctrl/Cmd]+[Alt/Opt]+[ R ].

Note: It may take up to 24 hours for your update to be available in your Creative Cloud app.

Thank you for being so patient.

[John R Ellis]

Confirmed this was fixed in LR 14. A possibly related issue surfaced on Mac and is the subject of another report:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-command-option-o-masking-panel-kbsc-can-conf...