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FSchleyhahn
Inspiring
June 14, 2022
Question

LR Not Sorting by Capture Time After Photoshop Edit

  • June 14, 2022
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For quite sometime now, I have been experiencing an issue with Photoshop edited images going to the beginning of a collection after being edited in Photoshop.  Here's a description of my work-flow:  

 

1. From LR, I select highlight the image and then select <Edit in Adobe Photoshop 2022>.  NOTE:  The image is in the correct sort order (Capture time) at this time.

 

2. PS opens and I do my editing.  I then save the image and the edited image (along with the original DNG file) now appear at the very beginning of my collection.  If I go to the Library Module and change the sort by to anything else (i.e. Added Order) then change it back to Capture Time, it then organizes both the PS edited image and the original RAW image in the correct order.

 

While on a call yesterday with LR Support for a completely unrelated issue, I mentioned this issue to the support rep and he saw it and advised that I update the C++ packages and if that didn't work, to completely re-install LR.  I did both, yet the problem persists.  I am experiencing this on two desktops, so it's not isolated to one machine.

 

Do any of you have suggestions?  Many thanks for your assistance.

2 replies

johnrellis
Legend
June 17, 2022

Please do the menu command Help > System Info and copy/paste the first ten lines here.

FSchleyhahn
Inspiring
June 17, 2022

 

johnrellis
Legend
January 17, 2024

Thanks for your info. I have this problem also and it is very frustrating. It happens in collections as small as 500 images. It wastes a lot of time if I can't see my edits right next to the originals. Each file clearly lists the correct

1. Date Time Original, 2. Date Time Digitized and 3. Date Time (which is when I edited and saved). It is clearly sorting by Date Time not Date Time Original when we choose Sort by Capture. I bet Adobe needs to update the programming since "capture" isn't listed on files anymore and instead Date Time Original is.


"Each file clearly lists the correct 1. Date Time Original, 2. Date Time Digitized and 3. Date Time (which is when I edited and saved). It is clearly sorting by Date Time not Date Time Original when we choose Sort by Capture. I bet Adobe needs to update the programming since "capture" isn't listed on files anymore and instead Date Time Original is."

 

LR maintains its own notion of capture date in the catalog. It sets capture date to EXIF:DateTimeOriginal if it exists, but if not, it uses the last-modified date of the file, which is often but not always EXIF:DateTime. When LR thinks EXIF:DateTimeOriginal is missing, it behaves very inconsistently:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-still-inconsistent-capture-date-time-for-photos-and-videos/idi-p/12664084

 

Your issue may be caused by LR not completely reading the metadata from the file created by Photoshop, with some parts of LR thinking EXIF:DateTimeOriginal is missing. There have been sporadic issues with this over the years, most recently with this bug acknowledged by Adobe:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-files-edited-in-photoshop-are-returned-to-lrc-missing-one-of-the-metadata-date-fields/idi-p/14326597

 

In this incarnation, LR often correctly reads the capture date from the PS TIFF but sometimes doesn't . The correct value appears in the Metadata panel and under the thumbnail but not in the Library Filter bar's Metadata browser's Date column.  The workaround for that bug is to select the TIFF and do Metadata > Read Metadata From File.

 

The same workaround might help with your issue.  When you see one or more files not correctly sorting by capture date, select them and do Metadata > Read Metadata From File. 

AxelMatt
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 14, 2022

Please try resetting the preferences of Lightroom Classic:   https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/help/setting-preferences-lightroom.html

 

It's recommended to backup your preferences before you reset the preferences to the default settings: 

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/preference-file-and-other-file-locations.html

My System: Intel i7-8700K - 64GB RAM - NVidia Geforce RTX 3060 - Windows 11 Pro 25H2 -- LR-Classic 15 - Photoshop 27 - Nik Collection 8 - PureRAW 5 - Topaz Photo
FSchleyhahn
Inspiring
June 14, 2022

Thank you for the reply!  Unfortunately, that didn't work.  I even renamed my preferences file (appdata\roaming\adobe\lightroom) and tried it and still, the same thing is happening.  Very strange!