P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

Report · Apr 29, 2024

This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issue by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

Report · Jul 15, 2024

Incredibil. Super instrument

Report · Jul 15, 2024

I mask out things to rempve like lamp posts and the corners of unwanted buildings, and I get variations on what is there. Please include a REMOVE option to make it clear to the AI what I want. As it is, the feature is very very hit or miss in removing unwanted elements of my photos.

Report · Jul 15, 2024

@serendigity: "As it is, the feature is very very hit or miss in removing unwanted elements of my photos."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

Report · Jul 15, 2024

Try making the mask bigger than the object and uncheck "object". Please
don't make the mask's shape like what you are about to remove and try it.
Just use generative fill. Keep trying. It's a work in progress. This same
process seems to have evolved to make better results in Photoshop rather
than Lightroom for some reason. It's already much better than when it was
first introduced. Good luck!

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Report · Jul 16, 2024

The results in PS sometimes are better, but so far I haven't found a way to pick from 3 different results in PS, only for generative fill! That still needs to be introduced.

The general rule seems to be pretty much:

- denoise, but otherwise best don't touch the image before using AI remove.

- try to get everything that belongs to the item you want to remove. Shadow, glare, blur. Otherwise it'll think you want to correct or change the item for a better fitting one, because it's "Aura" is still there.

I hope that's correct, otherwise I'll remove my posting.

Report · Jul 16, 2024

"I hope that's correct, otherwise I'll remove my posting."

That aligns with the recently updated summary Adobe provided in the first post:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-earl...

Report · Jul 18, 2024

Just trying to simplify. In case that condenses the issue, I can just reply that in the future, in case noone else is available.

Report · Jul 15, 2024

I tried batch removal but all files were skipped.

Report · Jul 15, 2024

@Sandra37160136ozuy: "I tried batch removal but all files were skipped."

That's a poorly written, confusing message. When you copy Generative Remove settings to other photos, the settings must be updated (recomputed), but LR doesn't do that automatically in this "early access" (beta) feature. So go to each target photo where you copied the results, open the Remove panel, and click Update All.

Report · Jul 16, 2024

I removed a railing on a boat that I was in when I took a picture of an island with a lighthouse. The blue sky had a textured pattern everywhere that the railing was in the sky. The land (island) and water were fine. I tried to remove the textured area to no avail.

Report · Jul 16, 2024

@jHolland45: "I removed a railing on a boat that I was in when I took a picture of an island with a lighthouse. The blue sky had a textured pattern everywhere that the railing was in the sky."

There are two possible causes of this:

- Did you apply Remove on top of a Sky mask? If so, do the menu command Settings > Update AI Settings. (In general, Adobe wants you to apply Remove first, then masking.)

- Sometimes Remove's replacements don't quite match the surrounding sky or other uniform backgrounds. You can try making the selections around the railing much larger to include larger sections of the sky, and/or you can make the selections raggedy (don't use Object Aware). See these two examples:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-earl...

If this doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

Report · Jul 17, 2024

Trying to use the generative ai remove tool to remove a road (off in the distance) surrounded by green hills. I highlight the road, click apply, and the ai gives me three other road options that I could replace it with......

Face palm.

ai needs to take it's cues from the surrounding areas, not the areas selected to be removed!

Report · Jul 17, 2024

@elisabethbls: "I highlight the road, click apply, and the ai gives me three other road options that I could replace it with......"

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

Report · Jul 17, 2024

Lightroom directed me here to provide feedback for the remove ai. So I assumed this was were we left feedback regarding the remove ai. I don't need assistance.

Report · Jul 17, 2024

@elisabethbls: "I don't need assistance."

Your comment suggested you weren't aware of the tips necessary to get Remove to actually remove an object rather than replace it with something similar. But if you used those techniques and they didn't help remove the object, then posting a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified photo will help Adobe understand where the tool is falling down.

Report · Jul 17, 2024

1. did you crop the image before you used Generative Remove? If you did and there is part of the road in the cropped out portion of the image, then AI uses what you cropped out to think it needs to complete the road. Always do Genertive Remove BEFORE you crop.
2. If ANY park of the road wasn’t selected, then AI will try to replace the road. Use “refine” of you missed an area

Jimmy's iPhone

Report · Jul 17, 2024

I don't agree with your order for editing. I'd think that crop would be first.

Report · Jul 17, 2024

@shutterbug9113: " I'd think that crop would be first. "

Adobe recommends that Remove be applied before cropping (see their recommended order of edits in the first post). The Remove tool looks at all the pixels of the uncropped photo, so if you select just the part of an object visible in the crop and leave parts of it unselected in the uncropped portion, Remove will generate a replacement that best matches the unselected bits. This is one of the common causes of the complaint, it "replaces instead of removes". See this article for a more thorough explanation with examples:

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Report · Jul 18, 2024

If you crop first, this tool will be a hit-and-miss. Do this editing BEFORE
ANY other editing. You'll be pleasantly surprised as to how good it has
evolved to be.

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Sent from Gmail in PC

Report · Jul 17, 2024

In general I do NOT want to use generative AI. I prefer content aware. Then it is using pixels that I created, not ones from someone else's photo.

Report · Jul 17, 2024

Not intuitive or simple and doesn't work very well if at all. Sosemwhat confusing. Photoshop removal tool is much easier and simpler to use. I'd give this app a D-.

Report · Jul 17, 2024

@Robert31242774biba: "Not intuitive or simple and doesn't work very well if at all."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to remove the desired objects.

Report · Jul 20, 2024

Sorry John

Not a very efficient program. Appears to be in the earl design stage with way too many flaws. As referenced, the photoshop erase tool is way more efficient and simpler to use to remove unwanted items. Back to the drawing board!

Report · Jul 20, 2024

@Robert31242774biba, many people here are reporting good results with Remove. If you haven't already, see this article for how to use Remove effectively:

https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/troubleshoot-gpu.html#solution-4

If it doesn't help with the issues you've experienced, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Report · Jul 20, 2024

John

Again WAY TOO COMPLICATED!!! Looks like Adobe rushed to make the tool available with too many bugs. Until Adobe is able to simplify its utility to a simple one step click I will stick with, and recommend, the photo shop eraser tool.