Another issue with this which may cause confusion for new users is that there are now two uses of the word "edit"in the lightroom UI. Ive always associated edit with a right clicking on an image and opening it in photoshop via "edit in" contextual menu .Now we have an edit button that returns to Develop module, or is it the edit module now?
I can pretty much guarantee that anyone who is not annoyed, hell, furious, at the massive disruption that this caused to workflow - muscle memory is a big deal after hundreds of thousands of edits - is either
1. Not actually editing all that much to begin with
or
2. Like me and saw it as an opportunity to try Capture One, fell in love with how much more powerful it is for handling raw files, and is thrilled to say goodbye to Lightroom!
Thanks, Adobe, I wish I had jumped to C1 years ago.
or 4, has been using some other method than clicking the Done button to achieve the same outcome - and is continuing to do so unaffected, hence feels no need to make their voice heard on the subject.
I for example have strong muscle memory for pressing Esc key / Enter key (the difference between those two is largely moot in LrC). And there's a Close button right in the Crop panel (for example) which is right where IMO you'd expect to find such a thing.
Or: say you wanted to do some spot cloning next. You are happy with your Crop. So you click the icon for cloning. The Crop panel just closes itself uninstructed and probably unnoticed. It's old news now. The new Edit button is just an extension of this idea AFAICT. Your crop change doesn't need to be confirmed or accepted - the Done button never served that purpose, btw. Interface, not action.
I would expect that many users have never even noticed the existence of this Done button. I probably did; but not sufficiently to ever bother using it IIRC.
@John269716800f8u I disagree with your assumption. I was always annoyed by the placement of the DONE button which was inconsistent with all the other editing functions. I don't miss it at all and find it far more efficient to just click again on the function I'm using to turn it off. And I have edited >100,000 images in LRC. For me, this was an easy transition to make.
Certainly, learning an entirely new product caused you to lose the advantage of your "muscle memory", so citing that as a reason to abandon LRC altogether is a non sequitir.
"Certainly, learning an entirely new product caused you to lose the advantage of your "muscle memory", so citing that as a reason to abandon LRC altogether is a non sequitir."
I had been reluctant to switch to C1 for years because of my muscle memory and workflow. Take it away, and it was the perfect opportunity to dive into a new program. I can't tell you how happy I am that I finally did. Think of it as more of a catalyst than a reason and you'll understand my logic better.
Muscle memory was gone. What a perfect time to try what the vast majority of people who have tried both say is the clearly more powerful program. I'm with them. There is not going back. it's okay, I was a fanboy like you guys for the longest time. I couldn't be happier with using a more powerful raw processor than I am now.
The "low" speed of LR is as it is and was there since the beginning. So everybody knows it and in the last two years, LR become much faster. So no need to complain about speed. But changing the GUI is terrible. I feel like a noop that is editing photos for the first time. The other thing is that i need to "invert" every single "radial filter". LR does not allow it to stay as default setting anymore (it changed a couple of versions).
One hundred and three requests went ungranted. Solomon was about to dismiss the one hundred and fourth also, since they all had the same merit, each one alike to the others, and this was getting ridiculous. But then he looked again and saw that this one had a quite tetchy attitude and used ALL CAPS. Accordingly, his heart softened and he relented as he had not done before.
Can someone point me in the direction of the thread that asks for the done button to be removed please. As it was such an issue for some people to remove Id like to read about their reasons for having it removed. Like many have said you didnt have to use the done button, but you cant use it if its not there. I did try search but nothing came up.
LOL, I'm sorry I've never really had a major problem I couldn't google my way through until this ridiculous change, so no reason to come here and interact. I'm glad for you that your workflow wasn't impacted by the change, but for many of us, it was a significant impact. I ask you, what have you gained by the buttons removal, other than to have an avenue to smugly insult those MANY of us who have come here for the first time because it is a significant issue to us?
The done button was not as useless as the EDIT button they added. Not to mention moving the generally much more used CROP button. You could click on the tool's icon to close it, and the edit button is not needed. The done button follows the FLOW of using the tool from top to bottom. Clicking a button clsoer to the center requires less effort than navigating to the toolbar, and with a smaller button. I'm also laughing at the duplicate bandaid icons when using the repair tool.
Another proper implementation woudl be to change the main toolbar area to fill the entire area with the tool you have selected. This way you have a larger area to click, and it would be more intuitive. Now, you can click on the EDIT button and watch it not do anything. Which is just silly, and not half as useful as the done button.
I REALLY wish these threads were indented/indexed for replies as well. It reminds me how much Adobe doesn't follow common layouts, formats, and better design.
Members in opposition are not being smug. They are mostly annoyed.
Now I will agree that probably being annoyed we could have ignored. BUT, many many Ideas are not being looked at by members. Many Ideas are not being voted on or supported or given feedback. Actual useful ideas. And despite a few request, their is no Down vote capability, So just feedback via reply's.
Also, yes Adobe appears to be ignoring this posting. Now Adobe does not often interact in these customer community pages, but this one appears to deserve some feedback from them. Especially with the numbers of votes. Note that a couple of other similar posts about the Done button is gone (my bad, links not included) and in a few an Adobe tech did reply, but the reply was useless, basically stating, yep, done gone, no reason given.
Second the done button was a "Close Button", all our steps are done and recorded the moment a history step is created and it was useless to use it because it was literally, objectively not a done button like in ACR.
Write me down the exact steps you were doing with the done button.
Let me understand why it was vital and why we have now is so horrible.
Lets not forget that it is SOFTWARE. Adobe could offer an old or new style of tool menus, or just offer MUCH more cusotmization of each item as a show/hide option. This is a workflow tool afterall, and that way it could work as they see fit.
@C.Cella First, I was mostly unnerved at @GoldingD , not you. Sorry for the lack of a tag targeting my reply. His comment (and subsequent reply) were indeed smug. I'm sorry that most of us who don't frequent this forum don't really care about other things you do care about... but you don't see us going in and down-talking ideas you support with no real evidence other than "this idea is stupid".
For every tool on the top right- crop, healing, masking, etc, it was a "end of using this tool" button that was in the same exact place every time. Yes, the "basic edit" button was added up there and does essentially the same thing, and is in the same place every time. But I OFTEN find my mouse closer to the bottom of an image when I'm done with a tool, and the "Done" button was *right there* - *for years*.
If there was a gain in functionality replacing that screen real estate with something useful, I would just have to chalk it up to a change I didn't like. But they replaced it with literally nothing, making the change nonsensical.
And again, I pose the question back to both of you, what have you gained with the Done buttons removal? How is your workflow positively impacted? If you can't give me a specific reason other than "I never used it", then your opinion on the matter really isn't relevant to those of us who are impacted.
Frankly, I want the Done button back. It's not an improvement to workflow for many people. The thing is, when I want to apply all the changes I've made, I hit "Done" Now I have to change to another tool, and then change back if I didn't like what I did. (i.e. Crop tool) Whereas with "Done" it'll keep me in the panel and I might make further adjustments. Basically, I hate it not being there. It gave me a sense of "Ok, DONE". Whereas now I have a sense of "I better double check the settings to make sure they were applied."
I'm also looking at other tools atm. There are just too many UI changes for the worse every time. I dislike the masking tool as well, because it never does what I want. So.... if I find a Lightroom alternative I like... and then a Photoshop replacement... then guess who won't be renewing her subscription next year?
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