P: Support sub-second (milliseconds) field in file naming templates.

[areohbee]

This would allow people to start filenames with date-time so alphabetical order is same as capture time order, and would create unique filenames (without yet another field) and properly order bursts....

Presently, exif metadata includes subsecond field, but Lr filenaming template stops at full seconds. So for unique filenames, one would have to tack on some kind of sequence number or something as well.

So, as things stand, one can have:

YYYY-MM-DD_HH-MM-SS_{seq-num}_{photog/camera...}

but not (as I would prefer):

YYYY-MM-DD_HH-MM-SS-MS_{photog/camera...}

A side benefit is that filename indicates subseconds between shots in a burst, which is otherwise unavailable in Lightroom without a plugin. Although, I could argue for displaying that too in formatted metadata display, even if only upon mouse-over.

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I would like to use Lightroom import dialog box for importing, instead of the plugin I use now, but it stops just shy of what I need/want still. - this is one of the things. However, if import actions were implemented, that would be enough.

[Ralf F]

You don't have to add anything to the name template, Lightroom will add additional digits if needed.

Here an example from Lightroom Classic.

First 3 Photos are slow starting, there is only one photo and the time is clear.

Starting with photo 4 (fast burst) Lightroom Classic will add additional digits at the end of the filename.

You have unique filenames, but it does not look nice and clean.

Here the same photos with the naming option from Bridge 2022.

Both version will work, but the version with Bridge is nice and clean.

Ralf

[Ralf F]

Sorry but the metadata include this information.

I renamed the files in Bridge and there the milliseconds are shown in the filename.

When I do the renaming in LrC I get this result. 

Only HHMMSS, LrC will add an additional digit if there is more than 1 photo in a second.

Here the selection list from Bridge (12.xx), with milliseconds 

And here the list from LrC, unfortunately without milliseconds.

I use Lightroom Classic (LrC 11.2) on a MacBook Pro (15-inch, 2017, Intel Core i7 / 16GB / 500GB SSD) with macOS Monterey Version 12.3.1

[JohanElzenga]

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@dwight1775 wrote:

It only works with one of my bodies because my camera file names are not synchronized. If one camera takes a photo it might be named DSC_2349 and the other camera takes a photo 0.1 second later (second shooter) it might be named DSC_8845. Yes, it provides unique file names but they don't sort chronologically.

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I think you should simply try this rather than dismiss it for a theoretical reason, that may happen once a year or so. Yes, it's true. If two different shooters shoot at exactly the same second, this may not work. But let's be realistic. How often will this happen? And can you sync two cameras so precisely that they are synced to the subsecond? And even if you can, will they stay synced to the subsecond during an entire shooting day? Are their clocks not going to drift even 0.1 second? I doubt that very much, so I doubt very much that using subseconds would avoid this 'problem'.

[Lumigraphics]

I use EXIF Sync if I'm shooting with multiple bodies.

https://www.lemkesoft.de/en/products/exif-sync

[dwight1775]

I thank everyone for their suggestions, but at my advanced age I'm kind of stuck in my workflows. While the use of Bridge or the use of LR supplied additions to the file name will most likely work, it will represent a change in my workflow or filename style. 

Since I haven't used Bridge for many years, I'm not familiar with the use for renaming and importing files, but it seems like it would take 3 steps: (1) download files to disk; (2) rename files; (3) import to LR.

 The use of added numbers would be a change from my old file name styles so I would like to avoid that.

I have now given up and have written my own program to do the download and filename change to mimic what I had with Downloader Pro. It's not perfect since I just learned Python last year, but it is serviceable and I wind up with filenames just like I had before. 

The best solution would be for Adobe to include subsecond ability in the file renaming, since there's only one program involved. But until that happens I have a working solution to my problem.

If anyone has the same problem and some proficiency in Python, I can supply the script that does the job. However you should be aware that I am not an expert programmer so the code will need polishing.

[Foto Franz Rauch]

Hello Adobe,

since years lot of photographers asking you for the ability to rename pictures with milliseconds as part of name. It works in Bridge but I dont want to do this because I have to resynchronize the folder and I'm loosing lot of time.

Sorry, but I can't understand why you ignore so many people asking you for implement this "feature".

I'm using the last version of LR 12.0.1 on Windows 11

[GoldingD]

Do any cameras actually input fractions of a second in the metadata?

[johnrellis]

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Almost all camera manufacturers do include fractional seconds in the industry-standard EXIF fields; Sony is one troglodyte manufacturer that still refuses to do it.

You can view the fractional seconds using the Debug Capture Time field in the Metadata panel's Default tagset (click the Customize button) or the Date Created field in the IPTC tagset:

[johnrellis]

Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography, please merge with this existing Idea:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-support-sub-second-milliseconds-field-in-fi...

[fotolandowski]

Anything new on that, dear Adobe? It really cannot be done?

thx, m.

[dwight_sipler]

I also would like to encourage Adobe to include this important feature, and to know when this will be implemented. I find it useful to change the name of the image file to something meaningful and I include the date and time to avoid duplicate file names. If I shoot a burst at 10 frames/second I might get 10 different image files within the same second, so subsecond time is important to separate the file names. I used to use Downloader Pro to change the file names and that program handles subsecond times (it appears Nikon records subsecond times to 0.01 second in .NEF files). Alas, I have switched from Windows to Mac and Apple does not support Downloader Pro. I wrote a python script to do the job but it would be SO MUCH EASIER if it could be done with the Lightroom import.

[stephen.trainor]

Here I am a few days after the eclipse trying to get precise relative timing for my many photos, taken at 20fps, in order to analyse them against high precision eclipse predictions. It would be very helpful indeed to have access to EXIF's "Sub-Second Time Digitized" within Lightroom, both in the Library Metadata inspector and for file naming purposes. It's a PITA to have to switch out to other applications to view this field - please consider adding it. I'm sure there are many, many other use cases where this data is important.

[johnrellis]

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@stephen.trainor: "It's a PITA to have to switch out to other applications to view this field"

LR displays the capture time's fractional seconds in the IPTC > Date Created field:

Sorting Library Grid view by capture time will recognize the fractional seconds.

[stephen.trainor]

@johnrellis thank you! Well, I never found that in all these years - shame we have to parse an ISO string instead of having something formatted to look that, but this will do the job.

[Sameer K]

Hello everyone, 

The MAX release for Adobe Photography products includes an update addressing the requested feature that addresses part of this feature request in selected fields. The team is working on the rest of it. 

If the update isn’t visible in your Creative Cloud app, refresh it using [Ctrl/Cmd] + [Alt/Opt] + [R].
Please note: It may take up to 24 hours for the update to appear.

Thank you for your continued patience.

[fotolandowski]

hi @Sameer K, 

that's a great news (pity that it took 14 years?)... but... i have the latest version i believe.. but no miliseconds in renaming templates still...

Is it hidden somewhere?

Thanks!

[johnrellis]

@Sameer K, like @fotolandowski, I don't see any file-naming tokens that would output capture-time milliseconds.

Here are all the naming tokens in TranslatedStrings.txt (no mention of milliseconds):

"$$$/AgNaming/Token/DateMenuTitle/Day=Day"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/DateMenuTitle/Month=Month"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/DateMenuTitle/Time=Time"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/DateMenuTitle/Year=Year"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/DateMenuTitle=Date"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/FolderEvaluator/NoFolderAvailable=Untitled Folder"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/ImageNameEvaluator/GenericPhotoName=IMG_0001.DNG"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_DD=%d"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_Hour=%H"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_Julian=%j"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_MM=%m"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_Minute=%M"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_Mon=%b"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_Month=%B"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_Second=%S"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_YY=%y"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_YYMMDD=%y%m%d"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_YYYY=%Y"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/dateEvaluator_YYYYMMDD=%Y%m%d"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_DD=Date (DD)"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_Hour=Hour"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_Julian=Julian Day of the Year"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_Local=Date (Month DD, YYYY)"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_LocalEncoding=%B %d, %Y"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_MM=Date (MM)"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_Minute=Minute"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_Mon=Date (Mon)"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_Month=Date (Month)"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_Second=Second"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_YY=Date (YY)"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_YYMMDD=Date (YYMMDD)"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_YYYY=Date (YYYY)"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/date_YYYYMMDD=Date (YYYYMMDD)"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/image_folder=Folder Name"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/image_name=Filename"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/image_originalname=Original Filename"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/name_copyname=Copy name"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/name_file_extension=Filename Extension"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/name_filename=Filename"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/name_filename_number_suffix=Filename number suffix"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/originalName_filename=Original filename"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/originalName_filename_number_suffix=Original number suffix"
"$$$/AgNaming/Token/preservedName_filename=Preserved filename"

[SteddyShots]

@Sameer K Also on the latest version and not seeing in option for milliseconds in bulk rename templates. It's been something have wanted for so long for auto importing renaming but I like the other commentors are not seeing what you are seeing. Can you provide a screenshot of it showing in the bulk rename template builder or which variables you are using if its not part of the UI?

[Sameer K]

Hey, @johnrellis, @SteddyShots, and @fotolandowski. I've shared your comments as feedback with the team. I will follow up with relevant information soon. 

Thanks! 
Sameer K
(Type '@' and type my name to mention me when you reply)

[RMACH]

Sameer K pinned a reply that I may not understand. Yes, I see that Lightroom Classic v15.0 supports millisecond time, but I do not see the support in the file rename function [F2]. I can create a date format as shown below, but I cannot select anything shorter than seconds. It would be very helpful if we could select the number of decimal places of the seconds to be included in the filename.

[Sameer K]

Hey All! I've updated the announcement, the status, and added the ticket to track this feature request further. 

Thanks!
Sameer K

[johnrellis]

Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography, please merge with this Idea:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-support-sub-second-milliseconds-field-in-fi...

[johnrellis]

Moderators, @Rikk Flohr: Photography, please merge with this Idea:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-ideas/p-support-sub-second-milliseconds-field-in-fi...