P: Point curve settings are missing when creating a preset

[Amani Ali]

I am trying to save a preset I have created, however when I apply the preset on an image the point curve setting is missing. I am not sure why this is happening as I've previously successfully saved presets without settings being missed.

My Lightroom CC is up to date (V6.4), I have restarted it too.

This is what the selection looks like when I press "Create Preset" as you can see the tone curves are ticked

However, when I apply the preset, the point curve doesn't change.

Please could someone give me some advice, thank you.

[Amani Ali]

Hey, I've attached 2 screenshots -

1 - is the original setting, where I have point and tone curve settings

2 - this is after I have saved the preset, the point and tone settings are missing despite selecting all options when saving the preset.

[rymrtn]

Hi Rikk,

Thanks for looking into this. I followed your steps (adjust the point curve > create preset), it works perfectly. However, this doesn't work fine if we do below scenarios:

Scenario 1: You have a previously edited image (i.e. not fresh) with point curve adjustments, to mimic this, you can try below:

1. Open Lightroom
2. Select any image > Under Point Curve panel, adjust one (or all) of the following: RGB Channel / Red Channel / Green Channel / Blue Channel
3. Close Lightroom
4. Open Lightroom
5. Select the image you used in step 2.
6. Click Presets >  Click + sign (or you can click the 3 dots then click 'Create Preset')
7. Set the name/group > Click Save
8. Select a new image > apply the preset you created in step 7.
9. Inspect the point curve - you will notice that the point curves (RGB Channel / Red Channel / Green Channel / Blue Channel) were not applied.

Scenario 2: You edited other images before creating a preset

1. Open Lightroom
2. Select any image, we will call this image1 > Under Point Curve panel, adjust one (or all) of the following: RGB Channel / Red Channel / Green Channel / Blue Channel
3. Select another imager, we will call this image2 > make any adjustment to this image.
4. Select image1 again (the image we used in step 2) 
5. Click Presets >  Click + sign (or you can click the 3 dots then click 'Create Preset')
6. Set the name/group > Click Save
7. Select a new image > apply the preset you created in step 6.
8. Inspect the point curve - you will notice that the point curves (RGB Channel / Red Channel / Green Channel / Blue Channel) were not applied.

Below are the specs of my machine when I tried this:

• Lightroom v6.5
• Windows 11

Note that I've tried this in 3 different lightroom version: (1) 6.5, (2) 6.4, and (3) 6.3.1. The issue is happening in 6.5 and and 6.4 only. 

Hope this helps. Cheers!

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

I can replicate the failure using scenario 2 but not using scenario 1. I will log a bug against scenario 2. Thanks for the complete steps!

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Bug written

[Stefan21949242x852]

Hallo liebe Community,

ist es euch schonmal passiert, dass ihr ein Foto bearbeitet, dann aus den Einstellungen ein Preset erstellt, beim Speichern aber die angepassten  Gradationskurven nicht mitgespeichert werden? Ist mir gestern zum ersten mal passiert, ich finde aber den Fehler nicht.

Danke euch für eure Unterstützung

lg Stefan

[AJarosz]

I am having exactly the same issue. When saving preset from DNG, the curve is not saved, no matter which boxes are ticked on the Save dialog. I have tried to restart, clear the cache, and reinstall, but nothing seems to be working. Attaching printscreens.

[AJarosz]

-And just to add one more thing - that works perfectly on the mobile, but not on the computer. My PC LR version is 6.5, build 20230808-1935-ddaacdd, system is Windows 11.

[yjin12345678]

I found a solution to this problem!! Just uncheck the "Tone Curve" from the Create Preset selection and then set it as default. 

[AJarosz]

@yjin12345678 just checked and it did not work for me.

[yjin12345678]

Did you keep the "Tone Curve" unselected and save it?

[AJarosz]

@yjin12345678 yes. The only thing it does is that the preset does not override the existing curve with the default flat one, but still for me there is no way to store the curve with the preset setting. 

[AJarosz]

Sorry, for the post. The dictionary made a mess with it, and I'm still did not reach the rank to edit.

[Cihad Aydın]

Worked for me. Thanks.

[Cihad Aydın]

@yjin12345678 worked for me, thanks.

[Cihad Aydın]

You can also try choosing "modified" option. That also works for me.

[AJarosz]

@Cihad Aydın this did not work for me either:

[Adam28289253kj33]

I found a workaround by updating the desired preset on Lightroom mobile via my phone. After a few attempts it finally syncs up and my preset saves the tone curve. Agree this is a new bug, never had this issue beforehand. 

[AJarosz]

@Adam28289253kj33for me it always works from mobile devices. but cannot find a way to make it work from a computer.

[JIANAN5C80]

HI I have the exactly same issue for LR, not classic, on both Windows 11 and MacOS Sonoma. It is not OS related and I believe it is related to how the program saves the preset.

If one exports the preset and use any text editor to look into the xmp file, you will see how this is defined.

For example, this is the Parametric Curve adjustment I have for one of my preset, which is saved a two months ago when this feature was still working.

If we look into the xmp file, we will see all of the points defined as they are. Each of the tags defines one point in the curve.

<crs:ToneCurvePV2012>
    <rdf:Seq>
     <rdf:li>0, 18</rdf:li>
     <rdf:li>71, 58</rdf:li>
     <rdf:li>126, 134</rdf:li>
     <rdf:li>188, 195</rdf:li>
     <rdf:li>255, 240</rdf:li>
    </rdf:Seq>
 </crs:ToneCurvePV2012>

But If I try to save the preset using the latest version of lightroom with a post-editing image, and then export it, I can only get two tags in the xmp file. 0,0 and 255,255, which means no info is saved.

However if I try to use an existing working preset, like the one I demonstrated above, and then copy all of my settings back, and then save the preset again, I will get a working preset with curve info.

My theory is, there might be some logic issue in preset saving for the new lightroom version. If I change the settings for a image in the new version and save it to preset, it won't contain any curve info. But If I apply an old preset, and then modify and save it to a new one, it creates a new one following the old preset logic, which makes it work. The is likely caused by the logic in how new Lightroom version saves preset from scratch.

BTW I am pretty sure the preset I created two months ago containing curve info, so the wrong logic was likely introduced in one of the newer versions after that.

Adobe please take a further look at this issue and solve it for us. This is causing some trouble for my photo editing, and I am just an amateur. No ones knows if any professional photographers is affected by this issue and it might cause a much more serious trouble for them. Thanks.

[JIANAN5C80]

BTW I hadn't updated my lightroom two months ago when I saved my preset. The wrong logic was likely introduced shortly before Amani Ali created this post.

[Arjun Lall]

This is still happening as of Lightroom 7.0 Desktop, no matter what I do my curve settings don't save to any profiles I create or update. However, on my iPad it works fine.

Created on my Mac (M1) Desktop app:

   <crs:ToneCurvePV2012>
    <rdf:Seq>
     <rdf:li>0, 0</rdf:li>
     <rdf:li>255, 255</rdf:li>
    </rdf:Seq>
   </crs:ToneCurvePV2012>

Created on my iPad:

   <crs:ToneCurvePV2012>
    <rdf:Seq>
     <rdf:li>0, 8</rdf:li>
     <rdf:li>64, 68</rdf:li>
     <rdf:li>130, 127</rdf:li>
     <rdf:li>192, 186</rdf:li>
     <rdf:li>255, 252</rdf:li>
    </rdf:Seq>
   </crs:ToneCurvePV2012>

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

Greetings all,

Updates for the Adobe Photography Products have been released.  The December 2023 updates contain an update for this issue. 

If you do not see the update in your Creative Cloud Application, you can refresh it by hitting [Ctrl/Cmd]+[Alt/Opt]+[ R ].

Note: It may take up to 24 hours for your update to be available in your Creative Cloud app.

Thank you for your patience.

[Arjun Lall]

Thank you! I can confirm this now works as expected.

[Rikk Flohr: Photography]

@Arjun Lall  Thank you for confirming!