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P: Generated images violate user guidelines

Community Beginner ,
May 23, 2023 May 23, 2023

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So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

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Adobe Employee , Nov 10, 2023 Nov 10, 2023

Dear Community,

On November 7th, 2023, the Firefly for Photoshop service was updated and improved for this issue. You should encounter fewer guideline errors when working on or near skin-tone areas that do not violate the community guidelines.

While the improvement is a big step in the right direction, we are continuing to explore new ways to minimize false-positives. Please continue to give us feedback on this new forum thread and also report false violation errors in the application.
Thank you

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New Here ,
Jul 16, 2023 Jul 16, 2023

Yesterday I violated the guidelines twice by asking for "campfire" and "starry skies" 😞 

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Engaged ,
Jul 16, 2023 Jul 16, 2023

😅😅😅😅.   We've had a laugh amongst the frustration at least 

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 16, 2023 Jul 16, 2023

Adobe, If you stopped trying to impose your moral values on a world of photographers who range from landscape to boudoir, and just stuck to blocking anything unlawful you'd probably have a much happier user base. Just a thought, but you might like to explain WHY all these perfectly acceptable words are triggering violations. IF I wanted to add, say, a bra to a display for a client selling bras, why shouldn't I, as a professional photographer be able to do so?

 

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Engaged ,
Jul 16, 2023 Jul 16, 2023

NOT just bra, but nightdress, bikini, brooch ( although if you put jewellery before it that works ) or any form of womens underwear. Even swimwear is not acceptable just now, it's completely absurd. I'm getting sick fed up of it.

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New Here ,
Jul 16, 2023 Jul 16, 2023

Finding out about using . instead of blank prompt probably saved me from a few months in jail, too!

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 16, 2023 Jul 16, 2023

Trying to extend the background using generative fill on attached photo and I keep getting a violating user guidelines error when clicking on the generate button. This photo clearly does not violate any of the user guidelines.

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Engaged ,
Jul 17, 2023 Jul 17, 2023

When you get starry skies, they're usually stupid childlike cartoon rubbish

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Explorer ,
Jul 17, 2023 Jul 17, 2023

I am on 64 bit Windows 11, Photoshop Beta 24.7.0

I was trying to extend the top of an image of a widow spinner. I increased the canvas size and selected the extension, clicked on generative fill, and clicked generate. 

Expect - image extended

Actual result - guideline violation message "The generated images were deleted because they violate user guidelines. 

The algorithm is screwy - I've had this happen on several images where there was nothing that would violate any guidelines. It could have horrible consequences if my license were to be revoked for excessive violations, as warned in the guidelines. See image below.

 

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Engaged ,
Jul 17, 2023 Jul 17, 2023

I'd say 99.9 % of us have had dozens of those errors, and I'm pretty sure it's safe enough to ignore them. Even admin on here know we get them for no reason whatsoever most of the time. As has been pointed out before, try using a full stop, or period even when extending a frame. That ALWAYS works for me 

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Community Expert ,
Jul 17, 2023 Jul 17, 2023

Illegal in which country?
In my country, nudity isn't a problem, and sometimes some Americans come across as sex-crazed by seeing evil everywhere.

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

Hi guys! I noticed that lots of times, especially when you zoom over 300% the IA get violations on not prohibited subjects, like for example now I'm working on chairs in a main hall without any people, any brand  logo, any kids etc.. and recreating the edge of a chair for IA is impossible because "It violated the guide lines". That happens to me so many times that I'm looking for a solution.

Ok, I can go back to use the old tools I've always used until now, but it's just frustrating to having a new tool that I can't use correctly, especially because I'm respecting the guide lines.

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Engaged ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

Here's a good one. Typed in children, generated those fine. Another pic I had a woman in the distance so typed child into the prompt. Dreaded orange error. Typed in kid and that was fine. Come on Adobe get your act together

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023
It's all a bit of a joke really, isn't it. I imagine a paranoid lawyer somewhere in an Adobe office, Googling "naughty words" , but the Microsoft paperclip giving him "normal words" without him noticing.
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Explorer ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

Since this thread's inception, numerous posts have been made detailing the "against user guidelines" issue.

Has Adobe addressed the issue and made any announcements about upcoming fixes? Any updates regarding AI technology? With generative fill, the remove tool, and Firefly Beta, I've had a lot of success. Everything is magic. I'm eager to see how the AI fixes this significant flaw.

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Explorer ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

We're going backwards here, with our software telling us what we can and can't do.

 

My car doesn't have a 70MPH limiter on it to stop me speeding. The knives in my kitchen weren't blunted on purchase to stop me stabbing someone. My printer doesn't have AI in it stopping me printing nudes and pasting them up all over town!... so why does Adobe think my photo editing software should be my nanny?

 

Many of here are experienced pros and we know the many rules and laws which govern what we do. We don't want to be told what to do by our computers, nor for for them to summararily decide we're guilty of something!

 

I'm an adult. I've worked for 35 years as a pro photographer, with 25 of those in newspapers. All kinds of subject matter crossed the desk during that time, from bombings and disaster scenes, to scantily-clad models in swimwear shoots. The whole time, I, my colleagues and my editors had free rein to edit all such material, with our own sense of decency, propriety, free-will and ultimately the law to keep us in check.

 

NOW apparently Adobe thinks it's okay for my COMPUTER to tell ME what I can and can't do. We are supposed to be in charge of the computer, not it in charge of us!

 

What's Adobe going to do next?... Maybe tell us we can only feature subjects of a certain ethnicity, or gender, or age, or only let us use the colour blue? Maybe they'll stop us editing images of politicians THEY don't like!?

 

This isn't just about AI. There has clearly been a POLICY DECISION that Photoshop should start controlling its users.

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Explorer ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

I was trying to eliminate the white specks with generative fill on the couch shown in the picture. The couch is sort of white people flesh colored and the censor does not you messing with it. This is a real pain and should be fixed.the couch.png

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Community Beginner ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

CAn one of you Adobe employees explain WHY you are censoring everything we try to do? I can understand blocking unlawful acts as per the territory in which your software is used, but when you are telling us what we can and cannot have in a professional photoshoot..you must have a good reason- We'd love to know what it is?????

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Community Expert ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

@PeterGJones what did you enter for a prompt? I used your image and put a period "." in the Gen Fill prompt and it cleaned up everything including your arrow.

kevinstohlmeyer_0-1689712007768.png

 

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Explorer ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

Have any of the complainers uploaded their files as requested by Adobe? That is the only way the problem will be resolved.

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Community Expert ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

I got it to work using my method of making a small additional selection on the dark background curtain.

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New Here ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

When I run into guideline issues, it often helps me to flatten the layers and then try again.

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Engaged ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

I've noticed this often helps as well. Never thought of mentioning this

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Community Expert ,
Jul 18, 2023 Jul 18, 2023

Since Adobe has already started pushing ads about the new generative fill feature in Photoshop, I suspect that the programmers are working as hard and as diligently as they can to get things working properly. But this incredible feature (at least when it's working, which I suspect is most of the time) is and will probably remain in beta for quite some time to come.

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Engaged ,
Jul 19, 2023 Jul 19, 2023

Seemingly Cornice is violating user guidelines. Now in the UK WE call it a pelmet. It doesn't work typing Decorative Cornice, it doesn't understand pelmet either. Cornice furnishing aslo violates whilst pelmet furnishing is ok. Odd thing is it allows a lit cigarette in an ashtray.

I was working on a Victorian lady sitting a table and a pelmet was a standard piece of decoration.

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Engaged ,
Jul 19, 2023 Jul 19, 2023

Fabrege is another word it won't accept. Fabrege meaning one of the priceless Russian jewel eggs.

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