P: Generated images violate user guidelines

[Hematita]

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

[JR Boulay]

This isn't just about AI. There has clearly been a POLICY DECISION that Photoshop should start controlling its users.

gadget13769, it reminds me of when Adobe decided to ban Photoshop from scanning or displaying banknotes (around 2005). I've done training courses in banks where the graphic designers went berserk.

😉

[Graham24508943nobd]

oh that must have been brilliant.😅😅😅

[jane-e]

@JR Boulay wrote: It reminds me of when Adobe decided to ban Photoshop from scanning or displaying banknotes

JR, this was not something Adobe decided. It came from the central banks around the world. See the CBCDG website:

This is from Adobe:

https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/cds.html

"Adobe® Photoshop® software includes a counterfeit deterrence system (CDS) that prevents the use of the product to illegally duplicate banknotes. As implemented, CDS prevents customers from opening detailed images of banknotes within Photoshop. The CDS technology was commissioned by the Central Bank Counterfeit Deterrence Group (CBCDG), a consortium of central banks from around the world. Adobe has included CDS in Photoshop at the request of the CBCDG.

"Laws regarding the reproduction of currency images vary widely from country to country. In some countries, reproduction is permitted for specific purposes given certain restrictions, but in other countries any form of reproduction is considered a crime. For complete information about the rules in a given country, please consult CBCDG’s website, www.rulesforuse.org. Where applicable, this website will also indicate where you can obtain legally reproducible currency images, and who to contact for further questions and information."

Jane

[jane-e]

@Graham24508943nobd wrote: 

Fabrege (sic) is another word it won't accept. Fabrege meaning one of the priceless Russian jewel eggs.

Can you tell us if it does the same when you spell fabergé correctly?

Jane

[DarthVengeant]

To the people being smarty about reporting images. I would be preporting over half the images I use if I did that.  

I recently had a family member over who has used PS and LR in the past. He was amazed at the censorship/violations as well. At least half of the things we did stuff with violated terms. So, tell me why I would want to set here reporting things continually? I would barely be able to do any art. You clearly do not understand the vast problem this is. 

[Graham24508943nobd]

Same thing happens no matter the spelling. However I typed in Jewelled egg and got a nice result.

 That's my project just now. Have still to add scratches and tears.

[Vonhellsing]

Palavras como EVA, NEO GENESIS, e muitas outras que nada tem de mal ou problema, acho que a empresa não deve decidir o que podemos ou não criar, uma vez que isso LIMITA O TRABALHO CRIATIVO DE UM ARTISTA, logo é um tipo de censura. Mas chega a ser ridículo as palavras filtradas.
Vocês são uma empresa de ferramenta de trabalho, não um partido político ou uma entidade não governamental, não cabe a vocês decidir o que um artista pode ou não fazer, isso chama-se CENSURA.

Versão Adobe Photoshop: 24.7.0 20230712.m.2239 0f0768a x64
Número de lançamentos: 13
Sistema Operacional: Windows 11 64-bits
Versão: 11 ou superior 10.0.22623.1037

[daniellei4510]

I remember when the people complaining most about text to image AI were artists, photograhers, and models. Now the people doing most of the complaining are the people trying to take advantage of it. 🙂

[ArnelGonce]

This REALLY needs to be addressed.  Maybe they are working on it, but I am failing to see why tree branches violate anything.  Seriously.  Im begging....PLEASE FIX THIS!  I'm so excited to have an easy way to fix things like this in my portrait session, but not if I keep getting this message!  

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@DarthVengeant you clearly do not understand how AI works. This is a machine learning process. The more people report, the more the team can train the AI to not false flag items. Or you can continue to complain on forums about how terrible this all is while volunatarily participating in a beta and not help move the project forward. If more than half of your prompts are failing are you reading up and trying the various methods to prevent a false flag like entering a period or a descriptive prompt instead of blank fields?

[pocketd]

Maybe you don't understand AI either lol. Especially if, as you say, because "the team can train the AI." 

[CShubert]

Hey everyone. Please keep the conversations friendly and on topic. We do hear you all and are working hard to make sure that when Generative Fill is ready for the public it is a solid and fully functioning tool that everyone wants.  

https://community.adobe.com/t5/using-the-community-discussions/adobe-support-community-guidelines/td...

[David30122720qek7]

On that topic I had a violation for dado rail. I wondered if it thought it was a mis-spelling with a instead of i,  but your experience makes it even more peculiar!

[David30122720qek7]

You are glossing over the obvious fact that the ai must have a list of banned words that can be edited. And probably should be given current results. Something in the programming is making it ban words in the first place. Reporting errors only highlights where the system is failing, it doesn't address the bias in the initial selection.

[WelbornWorks]

Some definitions need to be updated I think. When using genterative fill on rural country roadside photo scenes I want to put in unmowed grass and "WEEDS" with wildflowers. It doesn't like weeds. Which even it was thinking "weed" it could just give me the wild grasses we call weeds. If there were a list of usable words we could search or ANY sort of guidelines on text or language that would help and save a ton of time. 

[Gregusaurus]

Out of curisoty I made a new selection and put in your prompt exactly as you stated (unmowed grass and "WEEDS" with wildflowers). I got this:

[Graham24508943nobd]

I got more or less the same when a friend asked me to do a similar pic. I never used weeds though

[Fabienne22264968m084]

Leider gibt mir die KI bei egal welchem Begriff den Hinweis, dass ein Richtlinienverstoß vorliegt. Ich habe es mit allen möglichen Begriffen auf weißer Grundlage getestet. Somit kann keine einzige Richtlinie (z.B. Begriff Wasser) verletzt werden.

[Thomas225]

@Fabienne22264968m084 

Ich denke das liegt daran dass man nicht deutsch schreiben kann/darf.

Wenn du water statt wasser schreibst wirds wrsnl funktionieren.

[HN30289352or9v]

You would think after all these updates you'd still be allowed to edit these images without ps telling me its a violation. The AI is definitely not smart.

[Rafael3119322049zr]

 Que normas se infringen en esta imagen al usar el relleno generativo?? Quiero usar la herramienta por la comodidad que ofrece y siempre me sale ese mensaje...

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Rafael3119322049zr entering something in the prompt - in this case I used a period "." prevents false flag errors.

 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Rafael3119322049zr also remember the Generative Fill is still in beta and cannot be used for commerical work, only personal.

[daniellei4510]

This is also a case where Content Aware Fill would most likely work just as well, so why frustrate oneself with Generative Fill given its existing issues? Just a suggestion. 🙂

[Preston29196145tevi]

Hey @1950's Adobe.  So another day dealing with your 'Violating Your Guidlines policy.  So far this session you have wasted an hour of my time so I wanted to blast you again for what you are doing.  Oh, and another 40min wasted putting together this little message.  As previously mentioned, stop disrespecting and wasting professionals time with your half baked guidlines policy.  It has the AI intelligence of a rabbit.  Actually a rabbit could probably decern between objects better than your software.  90% of the time I leave the prompt blank it will not process and says I am violating your precious guidlines.  Then if I type somehting in it gives me a man in a work hat or something. Which I have to re-guess what words your rabbit brained software wants to hear in order to get me a good result.  It's maddening and it's waterboarding.  At this point I feel like the psychological torture of that process is a negligence on your part.  Here is what happens:

I select the side of an elephant to smooth it out, leave the prompt blank and.....

I am violating your guidlines.   [cursing removed]  I assume your rabbit brained AI thought it was a butt.  Really?  In any case, if that had worked,  I would move on.  But no.  So I had to figure out what to say.  Typing "complete elephant".  Gave me this:

Really?  What is that?  Why would it give me that?   That is so not even close.  That is why I am PO'd.  So now I have to spend the next 20 minutes trying to talk to a rabbit and get it to learn how to dance.  "Elephant body"gave me this:

Seriously?  I hope you find this amusing because it is.  It is laughable.  It took me many reselects, many phrase variations and finally I got it.  That is waterboarding.  It is torture.  Stop  doing this to your professional community.  I will say this again.  Take off all restrictions on this ASAP.  Create a new policy that puts the resposibility and liability on the user by making us verify our age.  I am so tired of telling you guys about this issue without anyone addressing it.  I have called the support number at least 10 times to complain and asked for an engineer to call back but no call.  I have sent countless examples to your @adobe with no response. I have sent 2 of these messages here without any response.  Shame on you.  Pretty please with sugar on top, take these restrictions off so I can work.