P: Generated images violate user guidelines

[Hematita]

So as you can see, it's a PG-13 relatively inoffensive image of a woman in a bunny outfit. The top worked fine, and I was able to complete the top ear, which is cool. When I tried to extend the bottom with generative fill, though, I got this warning. They're just a pair of legs wearing stockings, and I wanted to extend it.

It feels like a false flag - though I could be wrong? I find myself thinking it would do the same for women in swimsuits.

Figured I'd share here.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

My opinion - I believe the Credit "scheme" is not meant to be a means of monetary income - more so a means to control the volume of traffic hitting the AI servers. By limiting access (if you have a better method Im sure they are all ears), they can control the quality of service. If they left it wide open you know there would be users hammering this constantly or opening it up to more nefarious attacks and we'd all suffer (and complain even more).

[MontyWales]

Cant see where it says that they are included in my plan 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

What plan do you have @MontyWales 

[Graham24508943nobd]

I was told by one of their agents that I was already on the cheapest plan. £19.99 PM.  Being in the UK there'll be different rates

[MontyWales]

Photography plan £9.98/mo 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@Graham24508943nobd you are on the single app Photoshop subscription - there is another option that is a better deal:

https://www.adobe.com/uk/creativecloud/plans.html?filter=photography&plan=individual

The only difference is if you want LRclassic (local not cloud) and the 1TB of storage which is going away anyway.

[Graham24508943nobd]

Thanks. Kevin, just spotted this myself. I'm spitting feathers that I was told I was already on the cheapest plan

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@MontyWales and you have Photoshop 25.0 installed?

[MontyWales]

I get LR Classic and Cloud. I dont use cloud though, Wish they would move the filters across to LRC 

[MontyWales]

yes 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@MontyWales its listed in the FAQ link supplied a few comments up:

[MontyWales]

Is that global. I see a difference between countries quite a lot 

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

That is direct from the Adobe site. Universal.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@MontyWales either way click the link it will redirect to your country website and you can read for yourself to confirm.

[zvi_t]

If you find ads disruptive to your work focus, you have the option to pay $5 for every 100 credits once you reach your limit. Personally, I can't afford to do so, and I wouldn't choose to pay extra on top of a subscription. I'd rather continue seeing ads.

Adobe should follow the example of many other apps by giving users the choice to either purchase additional credits or view ads, similar to how YouTube offers Premium for an ad-free experience. This way, it would be a win-win-win situation, and everyone could be satisfied. If Adobe requires additional funds to compensate photographers for their images, that responsibility should not fall on the users. There are legal ways to train AI models without having to compensate photographers.

Adobe has the right to prioritize its own financial interests, just like most companies do. They aren't unique in that regard. Regarding the $9.99 plan, let's not idealize Adobe simply because we're on their forums. The primary pricing page displays the $19.99 Photoshop/Lightroom plan with 1TB of storage. If you're not familiar with where to look, you might not even realize there's a cheaper $9.99 plan with 20GB. Is this a transparent practice? No. Do many people end up paying $19.99, believing it's the best option? Yes. Is Adobe misleading these users by not prominently featuring the more affordable plan? Unfortunately, yes.

When integrating AI into your life, you often end up paying various fees like $20 for ChatGPT, $5 here, $10 there, and it all accumulates. While it's true that AI generation requires substantial computing resources, companies seem to prefer charging users instead of incorporating ads.

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@zvi_t not being an idealist at all but also don't care for disinformation.

The pricing structure is clearly posted and even has a convenient comparison page outlining the details of each plan before purchasing. Maybe you should refresh your view and take a look.

There is a link to compare plans on each purchase page - Creative Cloud, Photoshop, etc. that takes you to this helpful matrix to make the right decision. How do you consider this "misleading"?

https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography/compare-plans.html

[zvi_t]

@Kevin Stohlmeyer 

There is nothing idealistic about you. I respect how you earned the community expert badge. I wish you were in charge at Adobe. 🙂

Speaking of Adobe, I understand there's a link to the $9.99 plan, but uncovering it isn't exactly straightforward. When folks are searching for Adobe's prices, they typically follow one of two basic methods:

1. They resort to a Google search for Adobe prices, which leads to https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html.
2. They head to http://www.adobe.com and either click “Start free trial” or navigate through “Creativity & Design” to “View plans and pricing.” It's worth noting that clicking “Start free trial” opens a window (as shown in the screenshots) with no mention of the $9.99 plan. Moreover, both “See all plans and pricing” and “View plans and pricing” lead to the same page at https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/plans.html, which conspicuously lacks information about the $9.99 Photoshop and Lightroom bundle.

Interestingly, the only way to land on the link you highlighted is by specifically clicking on “Photo” from the above-mentioned page, or by choosing “Photographers” under “Creativity & Design” on the main page.

It's quite evident that most individuals are naturally drawn to that enticing “View plans and pricing” blue button, which regrettably doesn't guide them to the elusive $9.99 offer.

One would expect the “all” includes ALL packages, so there's no need to navigate the categories.

[J E L]

Here's what I see from the US: “Plans start at US$20.99/mo.”

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop.html

Compare these two URLs:

https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography/compare-plans.html

https://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/compare-plans.html

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

Thats interesting @J E L and @zvi_t I'll pass this along to the team - agreed it should be more consistent messaging across all landing pages.

[adrencg]

I'm sure they'll improve it, but right now it does kind of suck. But the censorship thing is just beyond insulting. We're all adults and don't need a corporation shielding us from the horrors of our art creations, especially when we're paying customers and they just raised the price. 

[David30122720qek7]

Agree 100 percent. Paying for every use with their credits scheme only to be told a bikini is immoral, or a girl has to be a woman, or similar is going to drive pro photographers and artists insane..and to other platforms.
If I'm working on promo shots for an hotel, and they want ,dare I say it, females, on the beach, is PS going to still throw an error at me every damn time?

[Kevin Stohlmeyer]

@David30122720qek7 please read this thread before commenting - this has been disproven as a myth time and time again.

[3Hounds]

Agree 110%. A little careful prompting and mask creating will get you what you need or want. I have put lingerie on nude models without rejected gens.

[Heiko Kanzler]

@3Hounds Still struggeling with this. I do mostly boudior I would love to use the Generative Expand. Cropping / cutting is one thing, but then pasting in mostly doesn't work as the proportions have changed. How can prompting help?

[David30122720qek7]

Kevin,
Sorry, what thread?. I'm not seeing any links other than to my profile and the entire bugs forum. I'm not even sure what it is that's a myth?
David