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Flatten, why do I have to flatten jpgs NOW to save them?

  • January 15, 2020
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Ok I open up a jpg, do some simple editing (crop, darken, lighten) and then when I click to save, a dialog box opens (windows explorer) and asks me to save as a .psd and shows some very strange jpg extensions too. So for me to save as a .jpg,  I have to flatten it then save it as a jpg. that has never happened before. I know that when I am working in layers I have to flatten but not for a normal image, what is going on? Is this a glitch in my system or a software issue? I also import the images from Lightroom as .NEF and then export to Photoshop (PS) as jpg.

 

I have been using PS since 1995 so I am experianced with the software, I have updated PS also. This is crazy, on the early verison of PS, everything works fine. I also open other images and do not have this issue, starting to think it might be a media card issue. If there is any help or advice please share. 

 

(update) I added a link to the video please view and you will understand.

 

OS: Win10

PS version: 21.0.02

    解決に役立った回答 c.pfaffenbichler

    »Delete Cropped Pixels« seems to be unchecked in the Options Bar for the Crop Tool. 

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    NB, colourmanagement
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    NB, colourmanagementCommunity Expert
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    January 17, 2020

    Hi

    in really simple terms Jpeg format does not support any layers - so the file has to be flattened to save if it contains any layers. When you crop a layer outside trhe crop area can be created 

     

    neil

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    rts2594
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    May 20, 2021

    Not true.

     

    In the past, I've been able to have a psd file open, click Save As and was able to save as a jpg and PS would flatten it automatically. Now, I have to flatten it first, or click Save a Copy.

     

    I think it's a case of they fixed something that wasn't broken.

      JohanElzenga
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      JohanElzengaCommunity Expert
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      May 20, 2021
      @rts2594 wrote:

      Not true.

       

      In the past, I've been able to have a psd file open, click Save As and was able to save as a jpg and PS would flatten it automatically. Now, I have to flatten it first, or click Save a Copy.

       

      I think it's a case of they fixed something that wasn't broken.

       

      They fixed something that was broken, but perhaps not for you. What was broken is what happened if you tried to overwrite an existing JPEG file in that situation, and are using MacOS Catalina or later. There is a very long thread in the feedback forum about that bug, and Adobe had to do something. Maybe they could have found a better way, but that is another matter...

       

      -- Johan W. Elzenga
        Warren Heaton
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        Warren HeatonCommunity Expert
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        January 15, 2020

        One of the image edits that you are using must have changed in the current version such that it triggers saving as a layered PSD file when it did not in the prior versions.

         

        Have you thought about settting custom keyboard shortcut to do Layers > Flatten in order ot resave directly back to JPEG?  (Edit > Keyboard Shortcuts...)

         

        You could aslo save an Action that does it and include the Save command with it.

          JJMack
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          JJMackCommunity Expert
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          January 15, 2020

          As he wrote he has to flatten that means he did indeed add layers and if save is used Photoshop will switch to "Sace As".  There is no need to flatten "Save As..." can save a flat jpeg file from a layerd document.

          JJMack
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          kennetha18226408作成者
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          January 16, 2020

          Ok, I didn't add any layers at all. I think this just might be an issue with the PC or something. 

           

          JJMack
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          JJMackCommunity Expert
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          January 15, 2020

          If you add layers and use save photoshop will switch to "save as" and default to a layered file type like PSD.  You can use the file type pull-down and switch to Jpeg. A flat jpeg file will be saved. The docyment In photoshop will remain layered.  Instead of  using save you could have use save as and switch to jpeg to begin with.  If you flatten the document when you use "Save" Photoshop will save over the document's current backing jpeg file for the document is flat. It because you added layers photoshop switches "Save" to "Save As..." which has a dialog. "Save" has no dialog.

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          kennetha18226408作成者
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          January 16, 2020

          You are correct, I know all that, but my issue is very different. You have a lot of knowledge, I can tell, and I wish you could view this first hand

          JohanElzenga
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          JohanElzengaCommunity Expert
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          January 15, 2020

          Your crop tool is probably set to not delete the cropped pixels. That will change the background into a layer.

          -- Johan W. Elzenga
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            kennetha18226408作成者
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            January 16, 2020

            Check out my video

            c.pfaffenbichler
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            c.pfaffenbichlerCommunity Expert
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            January 15, 2020

            »I also import the images from Lightroom as .NEF and then export to Photoshop (PS) as jpg.«

            Why do you accumulate compression damage to the images by jpg-ing them before editing them? 

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              kennetha18226408作成者
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              January 16, 2020

              I have always done it this way: Import to LR, edit and then export to a folder as .jpg. Then if for some reason I need to resize, as in the video I uploaded, I do that in PS. Once I complete my edit in PS, I then hit "save" but as you can see I have to flatten the image before saving which I have never had to do before. This is my issue, not how to save or why I am saving there seems to be a glitch or something and wondering if this is a computer issue or a PS thing or is it ME

               

              c.pfaffenbichler
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              c.pfaffenbichlerCommunity Expert
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              January 16, 2020

              It’s entirely up to you as long as the results meet your requirements. 

              But be aware that jpg-compression is lossy and therefore starting with a jpg and saving as jpg again will increase the amount of damage (even if it may not become percetible in most cases). 

                c.pfaffenbichler
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                c.pfaffenbichlerCommunity Expert
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                January 15, 2020

                Please post a screenshot including the Layers Panel. 

                What are the Crop Tool settings in the Options Bar? (Edit: In particulr with regard to »Delete Cropped Pixels«.) 

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                  kennetha18226408作成者
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                  January 16, 2020

                  I uploaded a video check it out please

                  c.pfaffenbichler
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                  January 16, 2020

                  »Delete Cropped Pixels« seems to be unchecked in the Options Bar for the Crop Tool. 

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