Photoshop view of image seriously altered in jpg save

I will put Nikon NX in my process to handle NEF when going to print.  Adobe recommends AdobeRGB for printing as it has a larger gamut.  I need to revisit color management in both pictures and videos.  It's been 10 years since I studied it.  I appologize if I was short. I'm in the middle of my towns Jazz Festival and needed to process hundreds of images a night and dozens of video clips. And was feeling really stuck.

Thank all again.

As you were told earlier in this thread, MS Paint does not use the ICC profile at all, it is not a colour managed application. Irfanview can be set to colour manage the images, I.e. use the document profile and the monitor profile and thereby display correctly, but it needs to be set up specifically to do that, as shown by Per in his response.

Dave

I recalibrated my monitor yesterday. Photoshop still saving all jpg as dark and vibrant.

I connected my old 8 bit monitor and Photoshop jpg's still ugly.

I used the AdobeCreativeCloudCleanerTool to remove Photoshop then installed it. Still ugly jpg's.

I have tried files with and without ICC data.  No difference in files from Photoshop.

I precessed the name NEF file in Lightroom, Photomatix, and Luminar. They all worked.

At this point I don't know what to do so will call Adobe support. 

Lightroom will do 99% of what I need this week.

OK, that means you are comparing two different image processing pipelines.

You said:

“opened from an NEF without any changes into Photoshop”

That means this happened:

1. Photoshop doesn’t open raw files directly, so it asks Adobe Camera Raw to handle it.

2. Adobe Camera Raw applies default raw processing settings, so if you make no changes there and have not customized the default look, what you see is the default Adobe rendering, which can be visibly different from how the camera or other raw processors render it. This is unavoidable, because NEF is raw, so it requires interpretation and rendering, and each company’s engineering team has a different opinion of how best to interpret tones and colors.

3. Photoshop receives the rendering from Camera Raw as an RGB image and shows a color-managed view of that.

4. You export from Photoshop. When exporting to JPEG, if a color profile was set to be embedded, it should look the same in any other color-managed app. If a color profile was not embedded, the appearance can vary in other apps, and could vary even more (as others have pointed out) if the display is wide gamut.

You said:

“right is how all other jpg openers show it”

That means this happened:

1. If , like Photoshop, an application doesn’t have direct support for NEF, but unlike Photoshop it has no raw converter to interpret the NEF, then all it can do is show the JPEG format preview that the camera embedded. This view may or may not be color-managed, depending on the app.

So you are comparing a Nikon raw file processed with non-Nikon software, with a camera JPEG preview. They’re going to be different. If you want to make it look the way you want (different than the JPEG preview), adjust it in a raw editor. If you want it to match how the in-camera JPEG preview looks (which is what the other apps show), then you have two options:

A. When in Adobe Camera Raw, apply a Camera Matching Profile if available. This should be close, but sometimes not exact.

or

B. Use Nikon raw conversion software, because Nikon software uses the same raw processing engine and settings that the camera uses, so the visual interpretations will match.

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