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ViTiW
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October 27, 2012
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Vaio Duo 11 pen pressure unsupported?

  • October 27, 2012
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Hi, I've just bought Sony Vaio Duo 11 i7 edition with Windows 8 Pro, but I found pen pressure isn't working on neither Photoshop CS5.0.4 or Photoshop Elements 10, while its pen pressure works on Fresh Paint and Artrage 3.5.5. Can anyone help?

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解決に役立った回答 Chris Cox

If the driver isnt' reporting pressure correctly, then it won't work in Photoshop.

The other 2 apps you mention use a different API for pen pressure -- so probably the older API is broken in your driver.

You'll probably have to go through Sony for driver updates.

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ViTiW作成者
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December 28, 2012

Didn't notice so many replies as I didn't check my e-mail so often and flooded with advertising. I thought this discussion is dead already. So...

After reading some Japanese (though I'm still studying Japanese) reviews and interviews of Duo 11, yes, some people said it already, it's a n-trig stylus, and it seems to have MS Ink or (Tablet PC some may call) APIs only; I tried it on another software which allows choose using WinTab or MS Ink (TabletPC it refers) API for stylus, and the pen pressures works perfectly on MS Ink and doesn't work on WinTab API. Accoring to one of the Japanese interview of Duo 11 (which interviews the designer, technician and marketing director), they (Sony guys) mentioned that they wanted to have wider stylus support but that depends on software vendor intention, which probably means Sony are less likely, if not meant not at all, to update the stylus to support WinTab API-only software. They also mentioned that the reason they chose N-trig because "the other technology" sensor is thicker that would cause the tablet exceed 18mm (and therefore cannot be classified as Ultrabook).

With more tablet PC using n-trig tablet (sadly still overwhelmed by touch-only tablet), I believe adding support for N-trig stylus (or MS ink) is needed, rather than waiting for driver update, since the driver isn't broken anyway. Guess this isn't a question anymore.

JJMack
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JJMackCommunity Expert
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December 29, 2012

ViTiW wrote:

With more tablet PC using n-trig tablet (sadly still overwhelmed by touch-only tablet), I believe adding support for N-trig stylus (or MS ink) is needed, rather than waiting for driver update, since the driver isn't broken anyway. Guess this isn't a question anymore.

Only high price powerful tablets will be running Windows 8 Pro and have driver that use API the interface with windows. These machines will also have USB so external tablets can be attached it the tablet has a built in N-trig digitizer. Is a tablet a good Photoshop device time will tell.

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jwjarv1s
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July 12, 2013

I'm thinking about purchasing the new VAIO Duo 13 Custom Touch Ultrabook. Would you guys recommend it or do you think I'll run into driver and other issues?

Chris Cox
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October 27, 2012

If the driver isnt' reporting pressure correctly, then it won't work in Photoshop.

The other 2 apps you mention use a different API for pen pressure -- so probably the older API is broken in your driver.

You'll probably have to go through Sony for driver updates.

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pwr_usr
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November 18, 2012

I am in a similar situation. Just got the Sony Vaio Duo 11 and the pressure sensitive pen is not working. I downloaded the Photoshop CS6 trial but it shows a warning when I try to set pen pressure in the brushes "Control by pen pressure requires a pressure sensitive tablet". I know the pen pressure works in Microsoft, Sony, and ArtRage products.

How can I check that "the pen is not reporting pressure correctly?" Surely if its working with all these other programs it is reporting it correctly?

Why does Photoshop not support the "differnt API?" It seems to be popular with other software developers?  

GAPmedia
GAPmedia
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December 9, 2013

I just watched this video and it looks like pressure is working on a Vaio (with Duo Sense 2 / N-Trig pen), or am I missing something? I finally chose to buy a Vaio Flip because the Sony guy at IFA said that Vaio machines would soon support pen pressure sensitivity in Adobe Photoshop. As far as I can see this has not been implimented yet, but does anyone know if Adobe has mentioned when this might become available. I have just started renting Photoshop CC so that I can have this functionality so I'm looking forward to seeing when it might become availble.

I wonder if it will just start working one day or whether I will have to enable something in Photoshops settings...


Right.  My "addition to the conversation" was a bit of irony. 

I don't know how this video was done, my guess was that the artist was using a prototype that had different hardware...  and clearly was loving it.

We would be too if the the sony VAIO actually had the functionality depicted!

It is clear that a number of high-end tablet manufacturers do intend their devices to be used with pen-pressure sensativity in industry standard graphic software.  So as others in this thread have suggested, I believe full support for N-trig drivers will be forthcomming.  My expectation is that this will involve both updates for Adobe software and VAIO drivers and possibly firmware.  In the mean time patience and a good on-screen keyboard like Comfort Keys Pro will help you get as much brush functionality as possible out of your tablet.

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