P: Add a Glyphs panel

[Garconis]

Why, still, is there no glyphs palette/panel/menu in Photoshop? It's pretty sad that I have to use Illustrator or CopyPasteCharacter.com to get the glyphs I need for my raster designs.

[ChasEMartin]

I hate having to launch Illustrator or InDesign to choose an alternate glyph when I work with text in Photoshop.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

What do you need in a glyphs palette to make it useful (not perfect)? Just a list of all glyphs in a font? What other application has a minimal working glyphs feature, and what application has the best (in your opinion) glyphs feature?

[dustinwwilson]

I think it'd be just prudent for consistency's sake to put Illustrator's gyphs palette into Photoshop (and every other Adobe app that can take advantage of it).

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

That sounds great, but since the apps don't share any code or UI framework -- rather difficult. And we have a limited amount of engineers and time -- so we'd like to focus on what you actually NEED.

[Garconis]

Well, what we need can depend on the project. But we do NEED (ideally) a palette that displays all the glyphs (i.e., every character) for the selected font. Then we can just click (or double-click) the glyph in that palette to insert it into our active text.

Some fonts have certain glyphs that other fonts do not, and it would be nice (just as Illustrator and InDesign do) to have a list/palette showing all the available characters/glyphs for the chosen font.

If you (for some unknown reason) have to limit the shown fonts, then at least have the most used glyphs -- such as quotes, primes (for feet and inches), bullets, registered symbol, trademark, copyright, dashes (minus, en dash, em dash, etc.), multiplication "x", etc.

I guess I'm just not sure how it could be TOO difficult to have a palette pull in a visual list of all characters of a chosen font. More mind-boggling is that Illustrator and InDesign have used this for many versions now, but it never made its way into Photoshop. I just don't get why Adobe wouldn't have added it, for how useful it would be. A web designer, such as myself, shouldn't have to rely on remembering all the codes to manually "type" the glyphs, nor should I have to rely on Googling the glyph name to copy and paste it. And, lastly, it's pretty bad when I have to open a separate Adobe program just to see what glyphs are available for a font.

I love typography, and I try to use the proper characters/glyphs with my designs. In my previous jobs, I was a graphic designer, so I more often used Illustrator and InDesign (obviously alongside Photoshop) -- but now that I'm a web designer, I use mainly Photoshop...and I miss my glyph options.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Please add a Glyphs window to Photoshop (like the ones in InDesign and Illustrator)!

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Sorry I didn't see this topic before I posted a repeat request. My problem usually comes in when I know of a symbol in a font like Wingdings or Dingbats that I want to use but I don't know the keystroke for it, so I have to copy/paste from the Glyphs window in AI or INDD. I don't know of a way around that other than to have a window that displays all the characters for a font... 😕

[J453]

No problem. Thanks for the request.

[adamtwar]

I definitely encourage the Photoshop team to add the Glyph palette. Even the Adobe-own OpenType fonts include a wealth of additional glyphs that can be accessed through InDesign's and Illustrator's Glyph palettes, but not within Photoshop. This certainly is discouraging, creates inconsistent user experiences and confuses users.

Especially on Mac OS X, there is a number of image-manipulation products that use Apple's CoreText or ATSUI-based "Typography" palette and the Mac OS X system-own Character Palette. This way, the users of those applications can easily insert all glyphs into their images. But Photoshop does not work with the Character Palette on Mac OS X if the glyphs don't have Unicode indexes, and on Windows there is no such comparable mechanism (the Windows "Character Map" application can only access the encoded characters, not the OpenType alternate glyphs).

This means that, the longer this situation persists, the more Adobe has the chance to lose customers who work with type and do image manipulation, towards the other competitors.

[hewn]

Just a regular standard Adobe glyph palette like that in Adobe Indesign and Illustrator, so that folks who buy opentype pro fonts can actually use the full character set in Photoshop. It's obscene that such a basic feature is missing - especially when Adobe bundles pro-level fonts with Photoshop, and users have no way of accessing the majority of the character set in-application!

[hewn]

Just a regular standard Adobe glyph palette like that in Adobe Indesign and Illustrator, so that folks who buy opentype pro fonts can actually use the full character set in Photoshop. It's obscene that such a basic feature is missing - especially when Adobe bundles pro-level fonts with Photoshop, and users have no way of accessing the majority of the character set in-application!

[hewn]

I get SO MANY complaints from type buyers that they buy pro-level fonts - including Adobe-made fonts! - and can't use much of the character set in Photoshop simply because you have "forgotten" to include a glyphs palette. It's an enormous oversight.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Adobe advanced the evolution of digital typography by co-creating OpenType and setting the technical standards for fonts in this format. Hundreds of other font makers followed their lead. Unfortunately, many of Adobe's own fonts (and those from the other font manufacturers) aren't fully functional in Photoshop. This essentially opens a gaping hole in the Adobe CS workflow for professional designers who rely on these fonts.

At minimum, a palette with access to a font's full glyph set is required to solve the problem. In addition, access to all OpenType layout features via the Character palette's drop-down menu will greatly reduce inconsistencies between Adobe CS apps.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

I've had no reason to update from CS3, but if PS CSX implemented a Glyph palette or more, I would buy it the day of release.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

There are SO many Photoshop features that have been developed in the last year that I don't NEED. No offense, but of all the things developed for photoshop in the last 3 yrs, I would have put the glyph palette at the top of the heap.

[Revolt Puppy]

At minimum, Photoshop should duplicate the functionality of the Illustrator Glyphs palette. I understand that they have different code bases, but your whole shtick nowadays is making sure the applications "act exactly the same" no matter the OS, even ignoring the standardaized OS style guides (which is a whole other complaint). Shouldn't it be your goal to make sure workflows between programs also have consistency?

[MiguelSousa]

Having had started this thread 4 years ago, I have to agree that a Glyph panel in Photoshop would be very handy.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

It should be there!
If Adobe still committed to producing the best, then perfection is a virtue. Hopefully Adobe to be truly paradise for designers 🙂

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Dear Adobe Gripe #4797

"Please add a glyph palette to Photoshop and stop assuming that real typography happens only in vector programs."

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

Dear Adobe,

Please, please, PLEASE... give Photoshop a glyphs palette.
There is no other feature that would be more useful for designers.

Thank you.

[AnnShelbourne]

The OTF Pto fonts, with their numerous alternate characters, make the installation of the Glyphs Panel (as used in InDesign) an essential component in Photoshop as well.

This request really needs to go straight to the top of the JDI list for CS Next.

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

JDIs are small, simple things that can be done quickly. This request is neither small, nor simple. Just make the request, and let the developers decide what's a JDI.

[AnnShelbourne]

However, you like to classify it, please just do it

;)

because I know that many people have been asking for a Glyphs panel to be included in Photoshop ever since the OTF Pro Fonts were introduced (which was back in 2006 in the days of CS2 if I recall correctly?).

[FeedbackCommunityMember]

The glyphs panel already exists for years on other Adobe programs. Have you became too big and fat to be able to communicate efficiently ? 😛

[SG...]

Hi Ann,

You're being kind. 😉 OTF Pro Fonts were introduced in 1996.

The Glyph Palette
While OpenType layout features are primarily accessed via the OpenType palette (Illustrator) or the OpenType flyout of the Character palette, Adobe InDesign (all versions) and Adobe Illustrator CS–CS5 also allow you to view and access all of the possible glyphs and layout features in an OpenType font through the Glyph Palette.

–Adobe OpenType User Guide v37, 07 October 2008