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i am making a really simple video - just some facial close ups i filmed on my iphone, but when i put it onto premier pro and then export it, it basically makes the whole face pure white and i havent even adjusted any of the colours, exposure etc... plz help!!
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Have a look here:
Understanding Color Spaces, HDR, and what that might mean to you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odwptnEhxJs
and here:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/faq-premiere-pro-2022-color-management-for-l...
and here:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/faq-how-to-fix-saturated-over-exposed-hlg-cl...
and here:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/how-to-set-monitors-for-hdr-work-in-premiere...
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The underlying color system and defaults for Pr2022 are completely rebuilt from all previous versions. Your iPhone is defaulting to shooting in HLG, an HDR format. Very few screens out there actually work well if at all with HDR media yet, though that will change fairly quickly I expect.
Premiere is showing those clips as HLG ... you need to go to the clips in the bin, right-click/Modify/Interpret Footage, and use the Override option set to Rec.709. Make sure in the Sequence settings that your timeline color space is set to Rec.709 and it should all work correctly.
I'll include a couple FAQs on what has changed, how to work within the new system, what's currently broken, and how to setup a monitor for HDR in Pr2022 if you really want to do so.
Neil
FAQ:PremierePro 2022 Color Management for Log/RAW Media
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Thank you R Neil, your guidance worked perfectly for me!
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Hi Neil - I'm having the same issue with the exported video being too bright/washed out. Never had this issue until this year. If I access my clips in the bin and right-click/modify/interpret...the Color Management is set to "Use Media Color Space from File; Rec 709". And the working space of my sequence is Rec. 709. In Premiere's General preferences I added a check for "Display color Management" which darkens the image during edit...but still too bright when exported. I've been reading the links...but I'm at a complete loss how to fix this.
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"Too bright when exported" ... viewed by what player on what type of system?
I'm expecting say QuickTime or Chrome/Safari on a Mac ... why? Because the Mac ColorSync color management utility was created with a bizarre non-standard choice: gamma 1.96, rather than the expected Rec.709/Bt.1886 gamma of 2.4.
Or even the semi-web 'standard' (normal practice) of gamma 2.2.
So it lifts the shadows and mid values quite a bit, compared to the same image on a normal Rec.709/Bt.1886 system.
So, if that's the basis of your problem ... your on a Mac ... um. Sorry. If you're not on a Mac, then do say on, because we can probably fix the problem!
And yea, that's a problem on Macs, and unfortunately there ain't no 'solution'. There are choices ... each with issues.
First is the Adobe offering of a LUT to be used at export, that darkens the image so it looks similar on that 1.96 gamma display as it did while working in Premiere. Great, right?
Well ... not really. It "works" only as long as you show that media on a Mac in Qt/Chrome/Safari. On anything else, working with a standard gamma, it's now way too dark in mids/shadows.
Resolve has the "Rec.709-A" option, that A is definitely for Apple, and it changes the second of the three NCLC tags so that oddly enough Colorsync now shows that file with gamma 2.4. However ... most Rec.709 compliant systems will show that file too dark ... exactly like they would the LUT-exported file from Adobe.
And the colorists I work for and with, mostly all Mac people of course, are 1) FURIOUS at Apple for this stupid choice that create this mess and 2) don't have any solution that fixes both 'sides'.
One thing to realize ... that Colorsync utility does this to all Rec.709 media. So ... anyone with a Mac watching pro-produced SDR media is watching media produced on a Rec.709 compliant system, but viewed with the Mac 1.96 gamma. And probably not noting anything "wrong" because it looks like all other "pro produced media" on that system.
What anyone is used to watching stuff on seems "normal" to them.
Neil
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Hi Neil - Thanks for the quick reply. I'm not completely clear on all this. It doesnt seem to matter where I watch the exported video (in QT on my iMac, on my Dell laptop, YouTube, Vimeo, ipad, iphone, my wife's PC..etc), they are all similarly too bright. Frustrating as this was never an issue before this year.
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Then let's get to your specifics. It's probably fixable.
The system, monitor, any calibration used, the media and what produced it, the use or not of the "DCM" display color management setting in Premiere's preferences,
And of course the color space of the media as seen by Premiere, found by right-clicking clips in a bin, and selecting the Properties panel.
Neil
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Doing a green screen clone edit with a ton of subclips. When I try the 709 trick the green screen is totally visible(albeit it's like white) and I can't fix it. Help please and thank you!
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Start a new thread, including full details on your OS and computer, the media and what created it, and what you want to end up with. Such as Rec.709.
Then post your complete color management settings in Lumetri's new Settings tab.
Everything.
I'll be happy to hop in.
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post with everything!
thank you
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ok, thank you, creating it now
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Checking the color Management and modifying every video in the color section with override "rec 709" fixed it!! Thanks. Footage from an iPhone
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This worked great for me.
Thanks!
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OMG THANK YOU! I needed a solution urgently as my video is due for submission in a few hours time. You're a hero man god bless you.
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Many thanks! It works perfectly.
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YESSS! This did the trick. Thank you!
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Thank you very much!! This solved my problem with my iPhone video.
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Your instructions were perfect. You saved me hours of time. Thank you!!
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WOW! Lifesaver!!
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You're genius Neil!!!
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Had the same issue and was looking for the right answer for quite som time. Thank you so much for this R Neil!
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Yes, thank you so much Neil! These instructions were so easy to follow and fixed the problem. Much appreciated 🙂 🙂
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Happy to help. I have no idea why Apple and most camera makers and many TV makers make this all far more complicated, complex, and difficult than it needs to be.
Neil
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Thanks helped me a lot
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