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FAQ: How to fix saturated/over-exposed HLG/HDR clips in Premiere Pro v.22

Adobe Employee ,
Nov 01, 2021 Nov 01, 2021

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With Premiere Pro v 22, new features around color management for H.264 and HEVC have been introduced. This FAQ will show you how to fix clips that appear overexposed or oversaturated due to these new features. Caution: iPhone shoots HDR by default. 

 

  • In case you don't want or need the HLG/HDR workflow and want to return to the standard workflow, please follow these steps to avoid oversaturated and overexposed previews.
    - Right-click on your media in the Project panel.
    - Select Modify > Interpret Footage > Color Management.
    - Set Color Space Override to Rec.709.
    - Sequence > Sequence settings, set Working Color Space to Rec. 709.
    Color Space Settings.jpg

 

  • In case you do want to edit & deliver in HLG/HDR, please follow the steps mentioned below. Also, see R. Neil Haugen's in-depth article for the full pro workflow: Premiere Pro 2022 Color Management for Log/RAW Media
  • Turn off HDR shooting on your iPhone by following the directions here. This allows you to return to a standard iPhone workflow.

So why do HLG files look saturated/over-exposed in Pr v 22?

In the previous version of Premiere Pro (v 15.x), HLG media was treated as Rec.709 & the sequence created from that media also used Rec.709 color space.


In Premiere Pro v22, H264 and HEVC are color managed, and the HLG media is treated as Rec.2100. So a timeline created from HLG media in v 22 will automatically be assigned HLG color space.

 

However, in v 22 opening a project created in the previous version (which had HLG media on Rec.709 timeline) results in HLG to Rec.709 conversion. This causes the clips to look saturated/over-exposed in the newer version of Premiere Pro.

 

Note: This only happens with projects (HLG media + Rec.709 timeline) created in the previous version. Newer project files will have the appropriate color space assigned and will show the correct preview.


How to solve this issue in v 22?
You may manage the color space of the entire timeline made from HLG clips.

  • Highlight the sequence & navigate to Sequence > Sequence settings.
  • Under the Video tab, set Working Color Space to Rec.2100 HLG.SumeetKumarChoubey_0-1635772126435.png

You may also color manage individual media files.

  • To do so, right-click on the HLG file in project panel & navigate to Modify > Interpret Footage. 
  • Under Color Management, set Color Space Override to Rec.709. This will create a preview that matches the color of Premiere Pro v15.x.
    SumeetKumarChoubey_1-1635772218241.png

How to correct saturated/over-exposed previews during H.264/HEVC export?

If you have edited in an HLG timeline & would like to export in HLG, please ensure that you use the following export settings.

  • Select your Format as H.264/HEVC.
  •  Navigate to Video tab > Encoding Settings.
  • Set Profile to High10 (for H.264) or Main10 (for HEVC).
  • Set Export Color Space to Rec.2100 HLG.
    Export Settings.jpg
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Please note that the Match Source presets use Rec. 709 color space & might result in an incorrect preview if used to export a sequence based on Rec. 2100 HLG color space.

 

For the full HDR broadcasters workflow, see this page in the Premiere Pro User Guide.

 

Hope this helps.

- Sumeet

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Adobe Employee , Nov 30, 2021 Nov 30, 2021

Karl's video may help you understand how the HDR workflow all works.

 

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Adobe Employee , May 31, 2022 May 31, 2022

For users recording their footage on a Sony Venice camera, using the Modify>Interpret Footage workflow will not work for those clips!

 

Venice uses the older unmanaged workflow, with a Source Clip Effect that has a toggle switch, and LUTs to adjust from there. You can batch-adjust these clips with an effect preset.
To see what I mean, load a clip in the Source monitor, and then open the Effect Controls panel.  You should see something like this! 

 

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You can remove the source effect from there.

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Explorer ,
Nov 03, 2021 Nov 03, 2021

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This hurts just reading.... I have a wedding I shot with three cameras that has no due date.... but I have over half of it completed editing on the old version. I'm not excited to open it up later this week. 

let me know if you figure out a sketchy work around 

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Nov 03, 2021 Nov 03, 2021

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Screenshot 2021-11-04 022108.png

 enjoy ✌

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LEGEND ,
Nov 03, 2021 Nov 03, 2021

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Why would you change versions on that project? There is absolutetly no reason to!

 

You can keep working in 15.4 as long as you want. Any projects started in 15.4 (2021) should probably be finished in it.

 

You can install 2022 as a different install. Create new projects, and  TEST  working in it. Once you have it sorted out, then create new project files in it, use the MediaBrwoser to import the assets of old-version projects and see if they also can work in 2022. Or leave them and keep using 2021 for them.

 

Neil

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Community Beginner ,
Nov 05, 2021 Nov 05, 2021

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Have you ever had a file that was created in 15.4.1 and then installed 22 and then the whole project was opened in 22 does not look like this if you would do that, you will come to the conclusion that the files that were opened in 22 are no longer in 15 can be opened

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Nov 05, 2021 Nov 05, 2021

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I don't need to go back to the past. I am working in the present and in the new version v.22.

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Nov 05, 2021 Nov 05, 2021

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 But there is still no solution! Adobe when will the update finally come ???

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Adobe Employee ,
Nov 05, 2021 Nov 05, 2021

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There is an update addressing the issue coming very shortly. Sorry I can't answer any "when" questions. That said, I still would not recommend updating major projects that are in progress to new versions. Roll back and use a XML file to do that if you already did significant work in the new version. Good Luck.

Thanks,
Kevin

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LEGEND ,
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Do NOT ever open files from one version in a 'higher' version. That is a user choice, with absolutely no need to do so!

 

Create a new project file and IMPORT the assets of the old project file into the new version project in the MediaBrowser panel.

 

The old version file is untouched and usable in the old version. The new version file can be tested to see if it works.

 

Neil

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I'm just a mid level editor who likes to tell stories with video.

All this talk of course space and workarounds is WAY over my head.

For idiots like me, what's the best thing to do to solve this ******* stupid problem which has come out of nowhere?

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Nothing at all waiting for an update, the only thing that is done when you contact adobe is that they tell you update your graphics card driver or see if there is an update error for 3 days I am writing with one of adobe, I also had an adobe employee accessed via remote on my pc what he said it is not possible to change projects that have already been opened in version 22 can no longer open in 15 that means a project started in 22 then always 22 or higher I'm so mad at adobe I have a document that has to be finished, they will hear from our producers

the person who did the update should contact me and would like to tell him something

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you are the best you in the forum thank you thank you thank you why adobe doesn't say something like that!

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Glad to help my friend ✌

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Adobe Employee ,
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Hi Mr/Ms Default!
Sorry for that. In my opinion, it's because it's a total hack that doesn't work in all cases and can break the sum total of all my work on a project? Just saying. That might be the case. Don't perform this kind of surgery on any working project, please use a copy/duplicate as a test. 

 

For me, it's still a no go. XML is the way to go that is also sanctioned by engineering. So, that's the route I go.

 

Cheers,

Kevin

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Nov 05, 2021 Nov 05, 2021

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Install  and use previous version. Not worth the hassle to upgrade yet..

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The problem is if you open a project in 22 then you can no longer open it in 15.4 because then the file is ready 

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That's true... it does however prompt you to save new version  as a different  file name....so next time do that.

For now open the latest auto-save file on old version and hopefully it's sufficient. 


Autosaves saved me so many times!

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LEGEND ,
Nov 05, 2021 Nov 05, 2021

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Never ever do that! That is always a user choice ... you can duplicate the file and open the dupe in the new version, or as often noted, the better choice: create a new file in the new version, use the MediaBrowser to import the contents of the old version project.

 

Either way, you still have the working original project file in whatever version it worked in. And a new version file to test in the new version.

 

As to the new color management options ... they have to bring color management choices to the app. For exactly this reason, that it would confuse some, they have resisted a long time after PrPro should have had user controls for color managment.

 

But with several different HDR forms out there now, they have to move forward. I've complained that spreading them around various places is inherently confusing, but ... they've done it this way as to the developers that's where users would 'think' to look for CM option.

 

I want a new CM panel.

 

Neil

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Never simply "open" a project file in a newer version. That process can work but has far more likelihood of being a partial to full disaster than a different way of migrating.

 

Create new project files in the new PrPro version. From those project files, use the MediaBrowser to navigate to, select, and import the assets of those projects.

 

You have a clean proper project file of the new version, with all the assets of the old version.

 

And you still have the old version project file intact and usable.

 

Now ... test the project in the new version. If it works, great! If not, continue working that project in the old version.

 

Neil

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You just saved my day and project. I was ready to throw my pc in the trashcan and pay back my costumor.

 

Mod note: Please do not use profanity, even if only implied. We have minors reading here.

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This update watesed me one to struggle with the HLG color Problem......

Still cant get the excat color of the oruginal HLG videos....

Finally go back to the previos vesion to advoid this problem......

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I appreciate this attempt to help, but my HLG footage is ruined when trying either of the suggestions. 

If I manually set colorspace to Rec.709, the footage is blown out and oversaturated. 

Whether I do it to the sequence or the video, the result is the same. 

The closest I've gotten is applying SDR conform upon export, but it's still adjusting color values. 

Please help... why did you guys make this so difficult for Sony HLG users??!!?!

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So you have HLG footage from ... which Sony cam, and what settings in-cam?

 

What are you setting the clip color space to in the Project panel?

 

What sequence settings?

 

Is your monitor set to handle HDR and your OS also ?

 

Neil

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Nov 09, 2021 Nov 09, 2021

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Thank you for your help, and apologies for the lack of context. It just suprised me that my original workflow needs a revision upon updating Premiere...

Testing new HLG3 footage shot this morning, from Sony a7r3 

Shot at 4K XAVC 30p 100M 

Clip Color Space in the project panel is usually left as default, but today I'm trying intrepeting to Rec709 with no luck, colors aren't right. So either default color or Rec709. 

Sequence settings is either derived from the video itself, matched, or using a RED 4k Timeline, or sometimes a custom timeline for social media cropped to 1920 x 1080 vertical. Either way, old workflows don't seem to work with HLG anymore. 

And my monitor.. no clue.. I never used to have any issue. I use a 2014 Retina 5k iMac. 

I'm a bit of a novice when it comes to the technical side of video, codecs, compression, output, etc. I've had zero issue in Premiere from 2012-today, I just want to learn and keep up with the updates. Especially because I primarily use HLG on my Sonys. 

If I apply SDR Conform on export, it kind of helps, but it's still adjusting colors more than I'm comfortable with. 

Thank you so much. 


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Why on earth would you make this change to PP? Now, I have to make these edits to EVERY freakin' clip???!!! Please remove this feature ASAP! I have spent HOURS trying to figure out how to fix this issue until I came across this blog. Please, please, please change it back!

 

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