How to get sequences to copy with unique instances of graphics again?

[GD_P]

Ever since the switch from Classic Titles to Modern Essential Graphics, I have not experienced this issue until recent releases of Premiere Pro.

My Title Graphics are behaving like Classic Titles... When copying Sequences I now have graphic elements in the bin again that the sequences reference, I have to make a new intro elements, drop them on the copied sequences and then apply attributes... instead of the Graphic being a uniquely embeded copy of the original in each sequence...    I'm sometimes cutting up one Show into upwards of 20 Routirnes, so this reversion of title behavior makes my workload expand again.

Is there a way to get the Modern Graphics behavior back? Where by graphic elements are part of the sequence and when a copy of the sequence is made, they are unique to each sequence?

[MyerPj]

You lost me somewhere along the way. Once a graphic is in the project, it becomes a 'Source Graphic', that's when you have the same graphic on the different sequences. How are you copying the sequence? I put a graphic over a clip, and copyied everything in the sequence, created a new sequence and pasted into it, and it was a unique graphic - no presence in the project. 

Then I rightclicked the sequence in the project and "Duplicate", and again, it was a unique graphic - no presence in the project. 

How are you going about it?

[GD_P]

Windows 11 23H2 - Premiere Pro 24.6.1

Essential Graphics are acting like classic titles.

Copying Sequences no longer creates unique copies of graphic elements.

Sequences are refereinceing still image elements in the bin.

[MyerPj]

I'm seeing some strange stuff here.

I just noticed it on the beta, and it is in 24.6.1 also.

Whenever I drag in a mogrt from Essential Graphics, it immediatly creates a folder "Motion Graphics Template" and an instance of the mogrt inside. Subsequent mogrts dropped into the timeline also end up in that folder immediatly.

I dropped two instance of a mogrt from the project and changed the background color, in one and it didn't change in the other, which I was expecting as it's inserted from the project. I can't get Upgrade to Source Graphic to enable.

Did I miss something? Like when did the graphics all start appearing in the project?

@Kevin-Monahan 

[Theresa Rostek]

Hi @MyerPj,

After Effects mogrts have always worked this way. The Motion Graphics Template Media folder appears once you apply an AE mogrt from the Essential Graphics panel. The file that's shown in there is the unpacked aegraphic file that is contained inside of the mogrt. 

Upgrade to Source Graphic does not work on mogrts that have been authored in After Effects, only Premiere Pro.

Applying aegraphics from the bin will always act the same way as from the EGP; they'll have the default values baked into them when applied to the timeline. There is no way to save the default values of an AE mogrt inside of Premiere Pro, you will have to update them in After Effects and re-export, or save a sequence with the modified mogrt clips.

Cheers,

Theresa

[MyerPj]

@Theresa Rostek 

Thanks Theresa, I just learned alot! I appreciate the explanation.

🙂

If you don't mind, when is it preferable to import an AE mogrt, or just import an AE comp?

[Theresa Rostek]

Hmm, I'd say it depends on your workflow.

If you're the type of person who works and tweaks and works and tweaks until something looks how you like because you're actively designing as you're working, then Dynamic Linking might be what works for you.

If you can think of all of the things you need for your mogrt design so you can focus on just the edit, or if the mogrt is something simple that you know won't require tweaks, then mogrts might be the workflow for you. Also mogrts work as a handoff file if you're not the one editing.

Cheers!

T