X-Rite ColorChecker Plug-in for Premiere Pro CC?

[Larry5C37]

When will support for quick color matching using color charts like the X-Rite ColorChecker be added to Premiere Pro CC?

[R Neil Haugen]

I've been working in both Premiere ecosystem and Resolve daily for over a decade. I'm tied into a colorist's network primarily and teach (and of course, learn from) pro colorists. So a lot of time both personally in Resolve, and ... I've far more 'friends' working in Resolve than Premeire. Where color is their reason for working in Resolve.

I don't know any actual colorist that finds Resolve's color picker thing for charts actually ... usable. For my own use, it's been pretty inconsistent, so I share their scepticism of it.

And as I do also 'shoot' a fair amount, I would love it if it did work for me. And I've got not only the Xrite passport, but the DSC Labs color charts also. But in both Resolve and Premiere, I do the manipulation to charts manually, once per camera, and save that as a preset to apply to any further work from that camera.

So I start by using the grey patches to set WB/shadows so all neutrals are neutral.

Then use Hue v Hue to move the chips into proper location around the Vectorscope for hue.

Then use Hue v Sat to move the clips to the same sat, typically about halfway between center and the outer bounding box. Then save the results, as from testing, the response to color after the WB is correctly set is pretty constant. So this seems to be correcting the sensor/processor dato of the camera, not the scene.

I'm wondering if they aren't hitting the same thing as with the Resolve system ... inconsistency that they can't quite eliminate.

[Derjis]

@jackthegiantslayerThey're probably too busy fOcUsiNG oN pErFoRMaNCe aNd sTAbiLiTy i.e. creating AI features that will  put their users out of work and rolling in giant piles of subscriber money, Scrooge McDuck-style.

[Elwoodjblues1]

I now work with the MBR Colour Correcror plugin. ( https://mattroberts.org/MBR_Color_Corrector/ ) This is the best system for colour charts that I have seen so far. It can even do the checker in the frame itself. I don't think even DaVinchi can do that. So my recommendation to all colleagues here!

[Derjis]

@Elwoodjblues1 
+1
That's what we use, as well. It works well, for the most part. Highly recommend it for Premiere users!

[leov65247121]

any update ?

[eorob]

xD buddy.... you must be dreaming.

[Elwoodjblues1]

There is a really good and cheap plugin for this usecase: MBR Colour Correcror plugin. ( https://mattroberts.org/MBR_Color_Corrector/ ) 

[Derjis]

If a feature ain't coattail-riding on the gen AI bubble, Adobe ain't interested in implementing it

[R Neil Haugen]

I see these things from those who think they "know"  somehow the motivations of the devs.

Always way outta whack if you do of course, so in their own way kind of hilarious. And always totally reductionist to absurdity.

The internal operations are complex. And it seems that decisions/priorties are based on 1) what users actually use at "this" time, 2) where they think professional editing is going over the short term from massive sampling of the user base and 3) some prioritization provided by the team members based on their personal experiences.

A number of the changes I would personally really really like are things I've been told would realistically be used by maybe 1% or 2% of the user base. Not likely to get high enough on any priority list to ever get done.

Yea, I get that. I don't like it, but I get it.

[Derjis]

I'd like to point out that the software is called Premiere "Pro", not "Premiere YouTuber Edition".
You're absolutely correct that the vast majority of Premiere customers are not using for anything even resembling "Pro".
That being said, like, if you want your software to be considered "Pro", for use by actual professionals, then maybe you want to add actual professional features instead of low-quality genAI stuff, where the point is literally to put actual professionals out of work...?
Of the two features, which would you consider to be more "Pro"? The ability to generate low-effort memes and low-quality stock footage using text prompts? Or robust colour correction features that use professional color checker cards in order to simplify getting an accurate colour balance?
I should also point out that the MBR plugin was developed by one dude. Nobody is expecting Adobe to pull a team of several hundred people from their coveted genAI teams to spend several years implementing this feature. Adobe is a $220 Billion company. It's VERY fair to expect more from them than a single person can deliver.

[R Neil Haugen]

If you're replying to me, at least get things right. I've never been employed by any company let alone Adobe.

And don't say I said something I didn't. OK?

I also don't see the use of denigrating those who are also paid to edit simply because their deliverables go other places. Just seems silly and pointless.

Personally I've not used that much of their machine learning things. Other than transcription which has been awesome. And a few times the audio enhancement thing.

Others I know, working in broadcast totally, are using every ML thing in the app. And loving them.

We all work differently than every other editor.

[Derjis]

The use of "your software" was a rhetorical device; I was addressing Adobe, not implying that you, personally, have some ownership of the software.

Apologies for making inferences about your comments re: the "1% or 2% of the user base", though. Everything else, I stand behind.