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John T Smith
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December 17, 2024
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Some thoughts about the 'culture wars' on social media

  • December 17, 2024
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I sometimes read or listen to the news about the 'culture wars' happening today with a little bit of wonder... the only social media platform I use is Facebook, and that only once a day to see what some distant friends have to say, so I have to shake my head when someone gets upset about different thoughts and ideas and leaves or threatens to leave FB or X/Twitter or even going so far as to say they are going to move to a different country (how many celebrities who SAID they were going leave the US actually DID leave if 'their' candidate didn't win?)
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When someone makes a comment I don't like on FB I ignore it and go to the next message... what I really don't like about FB is the list of 'people you may know' who I don't know... and the random links to sites I will never visit that are dropped in when I am on FB... I am not interested in F1 races or used cars or any other crappy sites, so I keep blocking them and more random stuff keeps showing up... oh well, such is life in the digital age
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I do have to laugh about one celebrity... George Clooney & wife live at Lake Como in France, but I just heard on the radio that he is very upset with the loss by Kamala... he has already left, at least in part, so being concerned about a US election is laughable... he is rich and lives in an exclusive area so the crime and financial problems faced by the average people in the US don't matter to him
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Also, there are the complaints about the 'free' exchange of ideas on social media
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First, Mark Zuckerberg admitted suppressing free speech
https://mccaul.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/mccaul-statement-zuckerberg-admission-biden-harris-admins-censorship
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Then, Elon Musk bought Twitter and changed the censorship there to make the platform more equal
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Anyone may post their thoughts where they feel comfortable, but leaving a platform due to a leveled playing field would seem to be a case of not wanting any discussion of opposing ideas... oh well, if your feathers are the same I guess you will flock together
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Here is a comment (picture) I found that I think is both true and funny

 

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    Nancy OShea
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    January 23, 2025

    Meta won't allow some Instagram users to UNFOLLOW Trump, Vance or Melania. 

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Ricky336
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    January 23, 2025

    Again, one has to be careful who they 'follow'! 😊

    Good grief, problems of the 21st C!

    Nancy OShea
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    January 22, 2025

    Be careful what you LIKE on Instagram. Everyone can see your LIKES now.

    Instagram Reels Is Now Broadcasting Your Likes to Your Friends

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Leslie Moak Murray
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    January 22, 2025

    LinkedIn does this too and I hate it. It keeps people from giving Likes. 

    Nancy OShea
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    January 17, 2025

    TikTok Ban Begins Sunday

     

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Ricky336
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    January 18, 2025

    And so 'another one bites the dust' or not!😃

    Nancy OShea
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    January 19, 2025

    TikTok's estimated value is approx $300 billion. Nobody has explained why the data TikTok collects is any worse than data collected from any other unregulated platform —  X, Meta, Amazon, Google, or Microsoft.

     

    Boston billionaire & former owner of the L.A. Dodgers Frank McCourt says TikTok is worth $20 billion.  Last week, McCourt and his coinvestors, including Shark Tank's Kevin O’Leary, sent ByteDance a formal offer to buy TikTok.

     

    Meanwhile, Trump's team is looking for ways to delay the ban that he & fellow Republicans clamored so hard for in 2020.  Also, Trump invited TikTok's CEO to his inauguration, so clearly he's NOT concerned about China or their intent to "spy" on Americans who use TikTok. 

     

    If you're confused, you're not alone. This whole TikTok issue is a confusing mishmash of contradictions.

     

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Nancy OShea
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    January 8, 2025

    I wonder how long this "no-fact-checking" policy will last.  This is just one of many similar posts floating around on FB.

     

     

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Ricky336
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    January 8, 2025

    Only the gullible will believe such news!

     

    Nancy OShea
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    January 10, 2025

    That's the whole point. Fake news is fake news, not free speech.

     

     

     

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Nancy OShea
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    December 30, 2024

    The circular logic on social media.

     

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Nancy OShea
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    December 28, 2024
    quote

    By @John T Smith

    ===============

    How quickly things changed. Overnight, Musk throttled and banned MAGA accounts by Laura Loomer and other conservative influencers because they dared to disagree with Musk.

    https://newrepublic.com/post/189682/maga-laura-loomer-elon-musk-fight

     

     

    Musk's honeymoon with MAGA may be over.

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Leslie Moak Murray
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    December 28, 2024

    Laura Loomer is not banned from X. She just posted 7 minutes ago. https://x.com/LauraLoomer?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

    Musk and Ramaswamy's stance on H1B visas is controversial to be sure, but the way the Left is trying to make it into a "war" and trying to say there's trouble in paradise is fake news. As usual.

    -edit typo

    Nancy OShea
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    December 29, 2024
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    Laura Loomer is not banned from X.

    By @Leslie Moak Murray

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    Loomer's account was banned for 12 hours (aka Twitter jail).  She was censored from posting/following or sending/receiving DMs.  More than 14 other conservative critics of Musk complained of shadowbanning and having their blue verification badges revoked— cutting them off from a variety of paid premium features, including the ability to monetize their accounts through subscriptions and ad revenue-sharing.  The platform essentially clipped their wings. If that's not banning, it's the closest thing to it.

     

    Conservatives said they considered X’s actions to be a betrayal by Musk, who touts himself as a free-expression advocate even as he calls for jailing some of his critics. Musk's sizzling hypocrisy can't be ignored be either side now.

     

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    the way the Left is trying to make it into a "war" and trying to say there's trouble in paradise is fake news. As usual.

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    This is why so many users made the mass X-odus from Twitter when they did.  Now that Twitter's conservatives are deprived of their preferred prey, the leopards are eating each other's faces. This screenshot says it all.

     

     

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Ricky336
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    December 19, 2024

    Speaking of moving countries, Ellen de Generes was so mortified about Trump winning that it is reported that she abandoned ship and 'escaped' to the sunny Cotswolds in England's green and pleasant land, to live a peaceful life, free from the hatred of the 'garbage' that voted for the right-wing 'fascist'.

    What's more, the new network Bluesky has had a windfall due to the defectors of X, who could no longer stand the 'toxic' environment of X.

    However, it seems that the new free, tolerant, inclusive Bluesky, is now an echo chamber of rather far left-wing voices, where if one happens to disagree - especially if you are a well-known figure - are 'blocked' if one goes against the accepted narrative.

    I would say now Bluesky is a mirror image of X.

    This is not surprising though, simply due to human nature.

    Therefore the culture wars have rather become 'us vs them' - 'othering'.  This can clearly be seen regarding Bluesky and X.

    X = conservative vs Bluesky = left/liberal.

    Again, this is to be expected. Through social media, people are given a 'voice'. We want to be heard. It's just that now people can't accept different opinions and prefer echo chambers.  

     

    Perhaps for everyone to get on with each other is to live in a world, where you will own nothing and be happy!

     

    PS Elon in an interview called censorship a 'digital chastity belt'!

     

    By the way, if Bluesky would shut down nonsense like vaccines cause autism, then they should also shut down nonsense like Flat Earth. There is a Bluesky Flat Earth Society. (Although, I guess this is fairly harmless, unlike vaccinations which have proven efficacy.)

     

    Nancy OShea
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    December 20, 2024
    quote Bluesky is now an echo chamber of far left-wing voices, where if one happens to disagree - especially if you are a well-known figure - are 'blocked.'
    By @Ricky336

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    That's not my experience.  An echo-chamber devoid of hostility & fear is not a "far-left or far-right" thing.  It's what happens naturally when mentally stable adults control the room. 

     

    I follow people on all sides of the geopolitical spectrum in various countries. I don't always agree with them, but we can agree to be civil and have respectful exchanges without resorting to name-calling & threats.

     

    When trolls come out with both guns blazing -- be they left, right or center, I recoil & block them. Bluesky moderators take care of the rest. I don't care what your position is, be civil or go back to your sandboX.  Simple, simple.

     

    If Bluesky users have a common interest, I think it's to see Musk permanently disappear from our orbit and relocate to Mars.

     

     

    Ask yourself why the richest bully in the world who almost bankrupted his EV company in 2013, destabilized a major social media platform and shared top secret info with foreign actors is injecting himself into American politics? And more importantly, why on Earth should any of us trust this man?

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Ricky336
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    December 20, 2024
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    quote Bluesky is now an echo chamber of far left-wing voices, where if one happens to disagree - especially if you are a well-known figure - are 'blocked.'
    By @Ricky336

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    That's not my experience.  An echo-chamber devoid of hostility & fear is not a "far-left or far-right" thing.  It's what happens naturally when mentally stable adults control the room. 

     

    I follow people on all sides of the geopolitical spectrum in various countries. I don't always agree with them, but we can agree to be civil and have respectful exchanges without resorting to name-calling & threats.

     

    When trolls come out with both guns blazing -- be they left, right or center, I recoil & block them. Bluesky moderators take care of the rest. I don't care what your position is, be civil or go back to your sandboX.  Simple, simple.

     

    If Bluesky users have a common interest, I think it's to see Musk permanently disappear from our orbit and relocate to Mars.

     

     

    Ask yourself why the richest bully in the world who almost bankrupted his EV company in 2013, destabilized a major social media platform and shared top secret info with foreign actors is injecting himself into American politics? And more importantly, why on Earth should any of us trust this man?

     


    By @Nancy OShea

     

     

    'Troll - troll is a being in Nordic folklore, including Norse mythology. In Old Norse sources, beings described as trolls dwell in isolated areas of rocks, mountains, or caves, live together in small family units, and are rarely helpful to human beings. '

     

    It's interesting that in English 'troll' now means something else.

     

     To say that Musk should be the only immigrant to be deported when he is a legal citizen of the US is strange.

     

    Speaking of mentally stable adults controlling the room, on the other side of the political spectrum, the US has a candidate that has awesome quotes such as:

    "What can be, unburdened by what has been." 

    "Fell out of a coconut tree."

    "The wheels on the bus go round and round."

    "I haven't been to the border or Europe."

    "I really love Venn diagrams."

    ...and so on...

     

    ....and so we get a new phrase in English - 'word salad'.

     

    "... but we can agree to be civil and have respectful exchanges without resorting to name-calling & threats..."

     

    ... so what about Bluesky users having a common interest in seeing Musk relocate to Mars - that's not very tolerant, is it?!

    So much for being kind, inclusive and tolerant!

     

    What's good for the goose is good for the gander. 

     

    At our basic human level, we are still tribal  - birds of a feather flock together - which was brilliantly portrayed in William Golding's Lord of the Flies.  

     

    Social media brings this to life in the digital universe! 😁

     

     

    Nancy OShea
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    December 19, 2024
    quoteElon Musk bought Twitter and changed the censorship there to make the platform more equal
    By @John T Smith

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    More equal for whom?  Foreign bots, hate mongers, purveyors of fake outrage & distrust in established institutions? Or anyone who buys the blue dot and disseminates disinformation?  🤦‍♀️

     

     

    FACT CHECK:  Nobody anywhere is being told to shelter in place from drones. DO NOT SHOOT AT AIRCRAFT!! 

     

    https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-vaccines-autism-b2665402.html.

     

    FACT CHECK: There is not a shred of scientific evidence to link vaccines with Autism.

     

    A responsible platform like Bluesky or Threads would have shut this nonsense down immediately.  But not Twitter.

     

    It's no coincidence that thousands of global journalists—right, left & center—have abandoned Twitter or that hundreds of corporate advertisers have severed ties to the platform.  It's an embarrassment.  The owner's toxic involvement has made Twitter unfit for human consumption.  If his goal is to devalue the platform, he's doing a great job so far.

     

     

    It's not a culture war when millions of people abandon a thriving platform.  It's a clear sign that it's rotting from within.

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Nancy OShea
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    February 11, 2025

    Musk led group offers to buy OpenAI for nearly $100 BILLION. Musk's attorney confirms the offer was made.

     

    In response to the bid, owner Sam Altman posted on X: "no thank you, but we will buy twitter for $9.74 billion if you want."

    🤣

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cpdx75zgg88o

     

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Chuck Uebele
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    December 18, 2024

    I have an Instagram account and X, but I rarely use them. I used to use Twitter to follow ULA launches if I was going to photo it. Instagram i look at occasionally, but rarely post. 

    I do spent too much time on FB, but rarely post or comment on anything political or religious.  I have a host of friends that do post that stuff and who get all hot under the collar if you don't see things thier way. Many have said to unfriend them if you don't believe as they do. Some I have, not because I disagree with them on some things, but I'm not sure I want to be friends with anyone who is so closed minded. A lot of them are all in their little bubbles, feeding off of each other's similar opinions. I have one friend who was ready to leave the U.S. in 2020, if Trump one. She had talked to an immigration lawyer, but since Biden won, she stayed. I haven't heard of she's planning to move again, but I don't look at her stuff much anymore, as she only wants people who echo her views.