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LOL, you are all unbelievable. You are honestly upset because I interpreted something differently than the OP intended? You are expecting an apology from me because I didn't understand what was written? Sorry, ain't gonna happen. I honestly don't believe there is anything to apologize for.
You see a flower and call it purple. I see a flower and call it violet. So I'm supposed to apologize because I described the color differently? Hmmm
How odd it is that by my clearly stating how I interpreted what was said, that I'm construed as "twisting the facts" and it caused such a stir. Everyone acted as if I edited the OP's lines to read differently. (Which, as a moderator, I could easily do. But would never do because it's wrong to do so.)
I still believe that what was said isn't 100% clear and may be interpreted a couple of different ways. See, if this were truly an area where mature and open discussion could transpire, it would have simply resulted in two or three exchanges. The fact it resulted in making a mountain out of a mole hill simply serves to underscore the real problem here in this forum and the need for the measures Jochem has had to use to try and bring order to it.
Note that I have not demanded any apologies for all the breaking of forum etiquette here by many calling me names and saying I'm all thick headed and the like because I see multiple meanings in what was said. I felt I was operating in good faith by simply stating what it meant to me. It was met by nothing but personal attacks, accusations and name calling. Then again, I cannot say with a straight face that it's not somewhat expected in this forum. Given the fact I've got the Community Expert badge near my name.
Cheers... Rick 
Claudio González wrote:
May I recommend that you read and try to understand message #165 above, by Günter?
Hi Claudio,
I don´t think that the context of what I wrote about in my previous message is in any way related to the current dispute between you or others and Rick, which IMO is fueled by a mutual misunderstanding, but nonetheless is a personal dispute between you guys and doesn´t appear to tangent the community expert - thing at all.
Guys, please try keeping me me out of your quarrel unless I start to tread on someone´s toes 
Günter
LOL, Claudio you are guilty in this post alone of what you are accusing me of!
You make an assumption that what I said was aimed at you and you alone. It wasn't. It was a simple generalization overall of this thread. Of this forum. And it further illustrates the issues here.
I have been given the distinct impression that you are similar to one or two others here. You see a Community Expert badge and immediately see a red flag because you don't like it.
You said:
I am sorry, but this reads as one of your usual sermons, in which you answer questions that haven't been asked, don't answer the ones that have been answered, and complain of the treatment you receive only because you happen to be an Expert.
That doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't answering a question that has already been answered be somewhat redundant? Or did you mean to say that I avoid answering the question that has been asked?
Cheers... Rick 
PjonesCET wrote:
That is to not say all people from NY, or NJ speak that way but most from big cities would.
PJ,
just to clarify what you said in that sentence. Are you saying that not all people from NY or NJ speak that way, but most people in big cities do speak that way? That is to say, most big cities have folks who use "Hows youes guys?", "Youes, sure do put on a great convention." ... in their local language?
greenjumpyone wrote:
PjonesCET wrote:
That is to not say all people from NY, or NJ speak that way but most from big cities would.
PJ,
just to clarify what you said in that sentence. Are you saying that not all people from NY or NJ speak that way, but most people in big cities do speak that way? That is to say, most big cities have folks who use "Hows youes guys?", "Youes, sure do put on a great convention." ... in their local language?
It's what's called in the US and I am sure there is a similar term all over the world "Slang". All I know I've met many people from Big cities of NY/NJ and they all spoke that way. I am not saying everyone from NY/NJ speak that way. But everyone I met from that part of the country. But everyone from that part of the country knows what people are referring to when the term is spoken, whether they use it or not.
It's like in the south we use the word Ain't which technically means "am not", But it also can mean "are not".
In neither case am I saying its good English or Good grammar.
Just like a friend of mine whoes wife is from Austria Told me ther Austrian people tended to speak High German. And German people speak two version. High German usually well educated people, many tending to be in Goverment or in Education or professions (DR's Lawyers, Etc) use High German. While Blue Colar people tend to use normal German. I asked what the difference was. She said. High German use no slang what-so-ever, while normal or average version accepts the use of a lot of slang. I am not saying it. She did. She said she could go into any government agency, Library or school and everyone could understand her , and her them. But out on the street depending upon where in the country and she would have a difficult time understanding some words, the people spoke, and they would have a hard time understanding her.
Sorry!
The answer though was directed at Geenjumppy.
greenjumpyone wrote:
PJ,
It's HochDeutsch and PlattDeutsch. Look those terms up if you would like to know more about the two forms of the German language.
I looked them up on Wikipedia and basic My friend's Austrian Wife was correct. HochDeutsch is translated as "High German" PlattDeutsch is "Low German"
I believe we are stretching JVD's patience verying off, so we should stop.
My appoligies for getting us off track.
PjonesCET wrote:
greenjumpyone wrote:
PJ,
It's HochDeutsch and PlattDeutsch. Look those terms up if you would like to know more about the two forms of the German language.
I looked them up on Wikipedia and basic My friend's Austrian Wife was correct. HochDeutsch is translated as "High German" PlattDeutsch is "Low German"
I believe we are stretching JVD's patience verying off, so we should stop.
My appoligies for getting us off track.
Phillip, I asked you twice, very politely in my opinion, not to continue getting the discussion off to a completely unrelated and irrelevant subject. It is also my patience that you have abused by insisting in going farther away all the time.
We are now 15 messages away from the discussion you interrupted, with a change of page in between. Should I thank you for your help? Do you think that apologizing at this stage is of any value?
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