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[Locked] Please, Can't We Just Continue To Purchase Photoshop, not CC, Adobe?

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Please, could we just continue to purchase our programs, Adobe?

I cannot go along with the Creative Cloud only option.  Although Adobe is offering great "discounts" on the Creative Cloud versions, they will absolutely raise the price each year.  (That is clearly stated in their "Terms.")  Adobe's "special discount introductory offer" goes to the "current price" after the first year.  The $9.99 / month special offer becomes $19.99 or $29.99 after a year (or much more - it is completely at Adobe's discretion how high it goes).

I do not want or need the Cloud, Storage, or Collaborative "features" that are the hallmark of the CC releases.  I am pleased to wait for a year for new features.  (Updates for bug fixes should not be delayed, however.)

This is just like the cable and satellite TV companies, they surreptitiously raise the monthly price, until you are paying INSANE amounts.

Like Woody Allen said (my paraphrasing, sorry):

"If you put a frog into a pot of cold water and slowly bring it to a boil, he will just sit there and boil - because the discomfort change is so slow, he'll hardly notice it, until he is thoroughly cooked!"

Adobe wants us to be that frog.

And once we have all signed up and are comfortable in our plan, Adobe wants us to forget that we are (almost invisibly to us) paying each month - while the price goes up and up each year.

I just read about a student who signed up last year for the "introductory" CC pricing for students, and now his price is going up to $29.99 per month, after just one year.  And where does it stop? Do you think it stops at $29.99?

(Quick math solution: $29.99 X 12 = $359.88 PER YEAR, EVERY YEAR!  And this is not capped, so the upward monthly price is unlimited!)

Although I love the products, I don't want to pay another gouging cable or satellite company!

Thanks for listening.

And Adobe, could you please, please continue to offer our "old-style" purchasing of new versions of Photoshop?

I will not join the 'Cloud.'

Please join Me.

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    Correct answer Nancy OShea

    As of January 2017, Adobe officially stopped selling Creative Suite software. 

    If you want Photoshop, you have to subscribe to a Creative Cloud Plan.

    The Photography Plan ( PS + Lightroom bundle) is currently USD $9.99/month (paid monthly for 1 year).

    Other plan options are also available.

    Creative Cloud pricing and membership plans | Adobe Creative Cloud

    Nancy

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    Nancy OShea
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    Nancy OSheaCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
    Community Expert
    September 1, 2017

    As of January 2017, Adobe officially stopped selling Creative Suite software. 

    If you want Photoshop, you have to subscribe to a Creative Cloud Plan.

    The Photography Plan ( PS + Lightroom bundle) is currently USD $9.99/month (paid monthly for 1 year).

    Other plan options are also available.

    Creative Cloud pricing and membership plans | Adobe Creative Cloud

    Nancy

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Participant
    September 1, 2017

    i won't buy PS or any adobe product again, he11 with them!!!!!!!!!!

    Nancy OShea
    Community Expert
    Community Expert
    September 1, 2017

    You can still buy Photoshop Elements.  No subscription required.

    Picture editor software, photo enhancement tools | Adobe Photoshop Elements 15

    Fantastic savings! Get 40% off Photoshop Elements.

    Ends September 4th 2017

    Regular price US$99.99

    US$59.99

    Nancy

    Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert
    Participant
    December 13, 2016

    What Adobe has done is guaranteed that I will never use this product again.  It's a shame.  It really was excellent.

    Participant
    June 8, 2016

    well i can see where you're coming from but i got screwed out of a month to month plan when all they had available was a yearly and now 6 months and i am trying to cancel and will have to pay a $60 cancellation fee!!! WTF ADOBE NOT COOL. Tell us up front and NOT in fine print that there is a cancellation fee big and bold on checkout screen not in the middle of the terms and condition because no one ever freaking reads that. mark me as one VERY UNHAPPY CUSTOMER.

    Legend
    June 8, 2016

    Surely that's not really a cancellation fee, it's just paying for the year you signed up for. Paying monthly is - what - 50% dearer? Clearly the annual plan is cheaper because you promise to pay for the whole year. Or do it seems to me. Maybe it isn't clear at all.

    Participating Frequently
    March 8, 2016

    I agree. I am an old timer and started working/digital painting with Photoshop in 1994! If anybody out there has a copy of "Micro Publishing News" published in Northern California 1994 my artwork is in there LOL!   I want to be able to buy a basic version of Photoshop in a BOX. Call me Old Fashioned! I'm now 60 living on a Senior Pension and I CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY A FORTUNE to rent it by the month in the cloud. Grrrr! Is there no end to wealthy companies trying to rip people off?!!!! If I can't buy Photoshop in a box then I will look for another software that does similar things that is available to buy in a physical box. I'd be sad to part ways with Photoshop but I can't do the rent by the month in the cloud thing. SORRY!

    cgrscott
    Known Participant
    October 23, 2015

    I don’t subscribe to Creative Cloud.  Adobe CS6 seems to be the last perpetual license for Adobe products that I’ll ever own.

    I’m running a 2009 Quad-core Mac Pro and a 2009 15” Macbook Pro so, I have the CS6 64-bit memory compatibility, with my six-year-old Macs.  I’m not going to have much incentive to upgrade my hardware since my Adobe software migration is at a stand still.  Maybe someday I’ll need to replace my hardware as it fails with age.

    Mac OS 10.10x Yosemite has been a nice upgrade these last 12 months.  Perhaps OS 10.11 El Capitan‎ will provide poor compatibility with my aging CS6 apps.

    The up and coming generation of creative pros is the big customer for renting CC.  Artists in their 20s and 30s don't find $49.95 per month to be large expense, since paying $69.95 per month for a smart phone plan is no big deal to them.  I'm 54 so, I still see the world through 1990s economics.  I have become as intransigent as my older creative associates who, back in the 2002, would never migrate away from Quark Xpress or Ventura Publisher for the state-of-the-art InDesign CS.

    Participant
    March 17, 2015

    I am only a personal user. I don't use photoshop professionally, though I know a number of people who do, I originally purchased Photoshop outright. Since then, I have changed platforms, PC to Mac, my PC crapped itself and is beyond redemption, and asked Adobe about changing over to the new system. I was told that, as my purchase was more than 12 months old, I would have to purchase photoshop outright again for my new mac. Ok, I kind of get that, but I thought that I might get a discount as an existing customer, nope.

    Now, when I go to look at buying it outright again, I need to pay for it month by month. Even if I start at $10 a month (photoshop only), I'm locked into a contract for a year, then if I want to continue using it, I need to pay for it, year after year. I'm sorry, I don't need it enough to warrant paying for it that much.

    So, here I am, I own photoshop as a program, I apparently made the mistake of changing computer systems and now I can either buy a crap cheap PC to run the CS that I still 'own', or, pay month by month for a program that I will only use rarely, or say goodbye to Adobe.

    Looks, like bye bye Adobe. A shame really, I love using the program too.

    Herbert2001
    Inspiring
    March 17, 2015

    Well, depending on the software company it will provide a multi-platform license or not. Adobe does when you become their Digital Serf. But, as you found out, not with a CS6 perpetual license.

    I am part of the group of users who dislike the Digital Serfdom as you do, and I prefer to own a license that can be used for as long as I wish. Since Adobe doesn't offer perpetual licenses anymore (I already own CS6), I decided to switch to alternatives. I chose Photoline to replace Photoshop, and I am very happy with my decision. I use krita for digital painting (which does a better job than Photoshop).

    You may like Photoline (PhotoLine: Download) - in terms of image editing it is about on par with Photoshop, with some omissions, and some improvements. A full license costs about three months of Photoshop (don't forget, you pay $10 per month for the first year, after that it increases to double that amount!), and the license includes both Mac & Windows. And you own the license forever. No monthly upkeeps. The trial is free.

    Pixelmator is another good alternative for Macs. Not nearly as powerful, though.

    http://www.pixelmator.com/

    Also keep an eye out on Affinity Designer, and their Photoshop alternative Affinity Photo (of which the beta version, by the way, can be downloaded here: Affinity Photo - Professional image editing software for Mac

    Both are inexpensive, and are gaining a lot of popular traction currently, and perceived as the "Adobe liberation front" for users not wanting to become Digital Serfs.

    Or go with Photoshop Elements (which again cannot really compete with the likes of Photoline or Photoshop, though).

    Participant
    December 6, 2014

    I have an interest in digital photography and checked out Adobe Photoshop today.  I wanted to know how much it was going to be as a program as I know editing software isn't cheap.  I noticed it never said anywhere how much it was on the official Adobe webpage and when I went to purchase it I kept getting this Creative Cloud subscription page - which again doesn't answer my question.  I would have really liked to have just bypassed that page altogether and just found out the information I wanted. As a potential new user of the program - I don't know if I will even want the subscription plan even if I love the software - I prefer to buy things outright with no further financial strings attached.   In the end, I just figured "forget it" then went to the Future Shop homepage and did a search for Adobe Photoshop and found the price immediately. 

    I am sure that the Creative Cloud subscription plan is awesome.  But as a new user just learning the software I would like to know about that first rather than all these cool add-ons that will cost me so much a month.  Just let me buy the software without all those frills. Then if I choose to want them later I can subscribe and stay updated.

    That seems to me an ideal solution - put in a "No thanks, proceed to check-out" option.

    Herbert2001
    Inspiring
    December 6, 2014

    renishasandrin wrote:

    I am sure that the Creative Cloud subscription plan is awesome.  But as a new user just learning the software I would like to know about that first rather than all these cool add-ons that will cost me so much a month.  Just let me buy the software without all those frills. Then if I choose to want them later I can subscribe and stay updated.

    That seems to me an ideal solution - put in a "No thanks, proceed to check-out" option.

    It's not such an awesome plan for everyone. Many (most?) are against a "rent forever", and given the choice, would opt for out-right purchase of the applications. But that is no longer an option (CS6 being a red herring here).

    renishasandrin wrote:

    I have an interest in digital photography and checked out Adobe Photoshop today.  I wanted to know how much it was going to be as a program as I know editing software isn't cheap. 

    That seems to me an ideal solution - put in a "No thanks, proceed to check-out" option.

    Professional digital photography editing software can actually be very, very affordable. There are alternatives that do an arguably equal or even better job than Adobe's software for digital photo editing. There exist many open source (free) options as well, and a combination of these with affordable commercial alternatives will give you the same possibilities.

    Spend some time researching the alternatives - it may save you hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars. And you will actually own the software, rather than rent it.

    Participant
    November 16, 2014

    As an undergraduate student about to complete his last semester, I have only this to say:

    Before the change in business model, it was a foregone conclusion in my mind that I would finally buy Photoshop once I got out into the real world. In fact, I was even about to cave and buy it today until I realized just how much things have changed.

    There is security in being able to say that you have paid for something and now own it contractually. I do not want the hassle of having to monitor and calculate the effect of monthly payments. I do not even believe this will be a better deal in the long run.

    If this is how it has to be, then I agree with some of the people who posted here. I will seriously look into Photoshop's competitors before I even think about purchasing from Adobe. At best, they are going to get a free trial or two out of me so that I have the experience I need to make that kind of comparison.

    Also, I think Creative Cloud is a little tacky overall. But I digress.

    Participant
    October 3, 2014

    we must stand up to this now . its a slippery slope if we don't. I will now look else where for software I can buy even if its not as good. we are the customers and we have spoken.