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Photoshop CS5 Very Slow Liquify

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May 8, 2010
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I've noticed that in Photoshop CS5, Liquify just works terribly slowly. When I click and drag to distort an image, the image gets distorted sometimes even 10 seconds after I've lifted my hand. Sometimes I have to wait 30-40 seconds for the distortions to happen before I can regain control of Photoshop.

Also, panning is a bit more choppy than in CS4, which annoys me a lot, as it was the case with CS4 compared to CS3, etc... I predict that panning in CS7 will look like a slideshow.

And another thing, when you Flick-Pan, and release the mouse, the canvas flies across the screen, and during that flying animation, in CS4, you could still zoom in and out with the keyboard. In CS5, you have to wait until the canvas has slowed down to a stop to be able to zoom. This is also a strange feature.

Adobe said CS5 will have performance improvements, and I can see filters, adjustments and brushes perform a tiny bit better, but basic things like panning, zooming and liquify got MUCH worse and less responsive, and this is not worth the tradeoff for me, since I use these features very frequently, many times a second.

I use a Wacom Bamboo Fun tablet most of the time, and I noticed that Liquify is much faster (although still too slow for me to use it) when I use my trackpad instead of the pen.

I'm using the Photoshop CS5 trial now, and I have Photoshop CS3 and CS4 both installed on the same computer, so I can tell that CS3 ran much faster, CS4 was a bit slower and CS5 is a LOT slower. I'm using a late 2008 15 inch Unibody MacBook Pro with 9600M / 9400M graphics, 4GB RAM and 2.53 GHz CPU, and speed gets a bit better when using the 9600M.

Here are my questions:

Has anyone else had any of these problems, especially Liquify?
Has anyone else used CS5 and noticed that Liquify runs just fine?
Does anyone have any suggestions of what I could try to cure any of these problems?
Is it possible that this is the way Photoshop CS5 should run on my computer, due to my hardware limitations and bloated software?

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ENR_ElizabethRaab

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I de-mounted (proper term?) my external drive and wooohooo problem solved! Now, the issue is that I would love to n

ot have to mount and dismount (better/worse term?) my archive every time I'd like to work on a new image. Is there a way to mount the drive so that it does not effect the program? Perhaps this is what was mentioned previously, but is there a simpler way of stating it so those of us that are only partially techy can understand? This is such a huge breakthrough for me. I've basically shaved hours off processing this job!

Thank you!!

Chris Cox

Legend

Well, now that we know why some people have problems and others don't - we can investigate the code and see what's going on.

Until we know why it is slowing down with external drives and such, we don't have another workaround.

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-_JM_-

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can we link this investigation with the following problem, also with external drive problems. The thread contains a method to reproduce the produce:

http://forums.adobe.com/message/3121118#3121118

thanks

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HartWorx

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i have been mailing adobe several times (had worked as beta-tester for other companies) but they never fixed this bug

Hey Adobe ... Give me a free CS 5.5 Education Version.... I just got you a happy customer

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J453

Legend

Thanks for the tip.

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HartWorx

Participating Frequently

Okay ... I had the problems with the liquify-tool some time ago and solved it my way. The complete re-installing process was not successful. Try to unmount every other drive then the drive you are running photoshop from. Photoshop should swap now the the main-drive only.

If you have NTFS-Drives mounted or running a NAS as iSCSI-Target try to set the filesystem to MacOS.

If you use Paragon NTFS deinstall it.

After every step you should test if the liquify-bug is still there.

Mine was gone after unmounting the NTFS-Drives (but i had Paragon NTFS installed).

Good Luck.

Hart-Worx || Photography & Retouch || http://www.hart-worx.com

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elyeilde

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OMG unmounting one of my external drives fixed it!!!!!!!!

You have just restored the joy to my photoshop work, I am not exageratting. This bug was sucking the joy right out of my retouching work.

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J453

Legend

elyeilde,

Are you by chance using "Paragon NTFS" as well? Any specifics about the driver you needed to unmount to fix it?

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ENR_ElizabethRaab

Participating Frequently

I've been checking for updates daily. In the meantime had to re-install CS4 just to use the liquify tool. As a photographer and thus retoucher CS5 is actually loosing me money in the amount of time it now takes to finish just one image that requires a little liquifying. VERY dissapointing. I'm frankly shocked its taken this amount of time to fix such a seemingly major issue. Taught a class last night and couldn't even do the liquify demo.

Really looking forward to that year long promised update!

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thenewfishdog37

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I got notification today that 12.0.4 (I think) will make saving meshes faster. I told hin that ain't the problem, at least not for me. The tool is too slow to be of any use. Maybe CS5.5 will help (unless that IS 12.0.4). Then I guess I am screwed.

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Chris Cox

Legend

Photoshop 12.1/CS5.5 is the same as 12.0.4 with the addition of subscription options.

The only widespread complaint about Liquify in 12.0.3 is that it is slow to save meshes. (other problems were fixed in earlier dot releases)

If you are seeing a different slowdown, then we need details, and you probably need to do some troubleshooting on your local machine (because something about it is different from everyone else's to cause the slowdown).

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elyeilde

Participating Frequently

are we there yet?

grrrr trying to work like this is maddening! it adds more time than i can afford.

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thenewfishdog37

Participating Frequently

i'm not even trying. i still can't figure why it would work just fine on my

MBP...

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Tekanan

Participant

When comparing the same image on CS4 and CS there is marked difference between the two - being much slower and more sluggish in CS5.

This is real problem for me which affecting my work

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elyeilde

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So now it's April 2011, I have just installed CS5 and all updates on a brand new MacPro with no other software installed and Liquify is UNUSABLE. Pretty inconvenient for someone who makes a living retouching photos.

Will there ever be a solution to this? or not until CS6 and I'll have to shell out several hundred dollars to upgrade?

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thenewfishdog37

Participating Frequently

Still crappy on my 3.06ghz 12gb RAM iMac but oddly enough works fine on my 2.66 MBP. That makes no sense. I've given up trying to use it.

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mybrotherbob

Participant

you guys might want to check out the dear god thread, its

evolved from a rant

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sean-gloss

Participant

just upgraded cs5 and still having the mesh problem. Takes a long time to save out a mesh. Liquify works great when I don't want to save a mesh, though. Back to cs4 for me.

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Meredith Payne Stotzner

Community Manager

The 12.0.1 update only addresses the slow brushing in Liquify, it does not address the performance issues for Save Mesh.

We're able to reproduce it and are working on a solution.

Thanks,

Meredith

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731C4

Participant

Thanks for the info. Has anyone else had a problem with zooming in in liquify? For me both CMD++ and CMD+- zoom out. Tool works. Shortcuts works otherwise in PS, just in liquify that odd thing going on. CS5 problem naturally, CS4 ok.

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Sean_C_Ross

Participating Frequently

Meredith and Chris, the save mesh is still super slow using the beta liquify plugin. I had to go back to cs4, and am holding up upgrading my office until this is fixed. We use liquify on high res files, and reapply to masks on many images in a day. On my machine at work, which is a macpro 2.9 with 32gb of RAM it took me over 10 minutes to save a mesh on a file. In CS4, that same mesh took less than 10 seconds. Definitely a bug.

Can I use the cs4 version of liquify with cs5? Just a thought, as I really like cs5 for other things.

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chazzcron7570391

Participating Frequently

Chris and Meredith, I'm not a crank, and I did mention this in post 16. No interest shown then. You have some more work to do, which is difficult for me to accept. Always seems to me that Adobe is loathe to issue more than one update for bug fixes. My concern would be that if it doesn't make it in this bug fix, it won't be addressed until CS6, if at all. Since you won't email the plug-in any more, I don't know what to wish for, a speedy update, which willhave your Liquify lag fix in place, or hope that a thorough one is delayed until it includes a fix so that mesh saves don't take forever.

Let me restate my desire for Liquify to load the last used mesh when the option key is held down, as it does for most PS functions. (curves, hue/sat, g blur, unsharp etc.)

I guess I am a little "cranky" ;-)

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Deano J.

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I too have been very patiently jumping through all the hoops suggested by Adobe techs and still have a slow, lagging CS5 that freezes several times a day ("Photoshop (not responding)") during any one of a dozen standard moves in Photoshop.

I've eradicated any CS3 plugins, validated fonts, trashed preferences and today installed and ran "Onyx" in an effort to successfully use CS5 for my graphic business. Still freezing and when working, slow to open or save hi res files, use the blur tool, filter gallery crawls. The entire app is completely buggy, infuriating to use and made worse by Adobe techs arguing semantics with me over everything (Chris Cox may very well be "one of the good guys" as someone posted, but he needs to replace his profile pic from a monkey wrench to a thumbnail of RuPaul!!)

God forbid a company ever says "Hey, we dropped the ball. How can we make it up to you?" It's ironic that during all the criticism of BP we don't realize that most all corporations, and their employees operate the EXACT SAME WAY. Deny everything.