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Inspiring
October 7, 2016
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How to embed ArialMT and TimesNewRomanPSMT fonts in a PDF file

  • October 7, 2016
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Hi,

I need to embed in a  PDF file created in the past (on a WinXP PC)  the following fonts 

- ArialMT

- Arial-BoldItalicMT

- Times-Roman

- TimesNewRomanPSMT

- TimesNewRomanPS-BoldMT

I tried the Acrobat DC Pro Preflight "Embed Fonts" function using default sw configurations with no avail.

Can someone suggest how to obtain that Acrobat DC Pro embeds these fonts in the PDF file?

Are other softwares available to obtain this result?

Many thanks,

Armando

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解決に役立った回答 Armando_Bertuzzi

From the tests made with Dov’s help it emerged that the PDF files on which I need to embed missing fonts have a complexity (due to creation as a collection of PDF files generated on different PCs under different conditions) that exceeds current ability of the Adobe Professional’s Preflight module to fix the embedded fonts profile.

Adobe is planning to make available in a future update of Acrobat DC a fix of the Preflight "Embed Fonts" function that will ensure successful embedding of fonts also in this type of files.

In order to obtain the embedding of the missing fonts in my files, I am currently moving to use one of the plug-ins for Acrobat that include this feature and for which I have found good references in other posts:  Callas pdfToolbox  and Enfocus Pitstop Pro.

Thank you to all who contributed their comments and help.

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evelynlewis
Participant
February 18, 2023

Hi, I'm having a very similar problem (a long file that MUST be uploaded with ALL fonts embedded) with the exception that mine is likely not as complex as Armando's. I have used the MS Word "export to PDF" option, and tried an online PDF converter as well, but the problem is the same: "ArialMT" and "TimesNewRomanPSMT" don't embed. The difference is that I do not use these fonts in my document. I don't know why they appear in the list. I've made sure the option to embed default system fonts is enabled, but it didn't help. What can I do?

Participant
September 11, 2024

Have you found a solution? I have a similar problem. When I save my Word file as a pdf the bullets used in the document are somehow changed to ArialMT, even though they are formatted as Candara. I am trying to upload a book manuscript that now is rejected because the ArialMT fonts are not embedded. Any luck with yours?

Brad @ Roaring Mouse
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 11, 2024

To address the bullet issue first: Your bullets will be the font you have defined for Bullets; it's not necessarily the same as the font of your text. If you have only one Bullet defined in your Bullet Library (normally, bullets are pulled from the Symbol font but this can be changed to anything, like Arial), this is what would be used for all bullets, regardless of the font of your text. You would need to define a new Bullet that is specifically Candara and apply that to the appropriate text.

As for the two fonts not being embedded, this seems to be a problem with current versions of Word. If you were to "Save As" the file and select Save as type: "PDF", and then click "More options" to select "Standard (publishing online and printing)", they will not be embedded as they are considered part of the "base 14" fonts and are deemed unnecessary. There doesn't seem to be any place to override this behavior.

However, if you use selected the other option "Minimize size..." they will be.

Alternatively: Using the "Save as Adobe PDF" option should also work, assuming your Preferences are assigned correctly:

Regardless, even if the ArialMT and Times New RomanPSMT end up not being embedded, you can use the Fixup tool in Acrobat to do so.

 

Legend
October 12, 2016

You mean MT I think not TM. MT is a code meaning a font owned by Monotype.

Inspiring
October 12, 2016

I apologize for the typo.  The "TM" I wrote in my last message should be read "MT" as a reference to the list of fonts that I have documented in my previous messages.

I will definitely accept Dov's offer to take a look at the files in which the "MT" fonts are listed and help tune the preflight process to obtain that those fonts are embedded.

Armando_Bertuzzi作成者解決!
Inspiring
October 26, 2016

From the tests made with Dov’s help it emerged that the PDF files on which I need to embed missing fonts have a complexity (due to creation as a collection of PDF files generated on different PCs under different conditions) that exceeds current ability of the Adobe Professional’s Preflight module to fix the embedded fonts profile.

Adobe is planning to make available in a future update of Acrobat DC a fix of the Preflight "Embed Fonts" function that will ensure successful embedding of fonts also in this type of files.

In order to obtain the embedding of the missing fonts in my files, I am currently moving to use one of the plug-ins for Acrobat that include this feature and for which I have found good references in other posts:  Callas pdfToolbox  and Enfocus Pitstop Pro.

Thank you to all who contributed their comments and help.

Legend
October 11, 2016

Ok,it was worth checking. So, have you sourced and installed all these fonts?

Inspiring
October 12, 2016

The "TM" fonts are listed as existing in the Fonts section of the Adobe PDF Settings but are not explicitly listed when the Windows(7) fonts set is inspected at location  C:\Windows\Fonts\.

I am executing some further tests. I'll report the outomes.

Thanks, Armando

Karl Heinz  Kremer
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 12, 2016

These "MT" names are the font's PostScript names. When you look at the link that I posted earlier, you'll see that a font has many different names, and usually the user does not even see the PostScript name. You need special tools to dig into a font to see these different names. The fact that you actually see the PostScript name being displayed as the font's name in the fonts information dialog, could be the reason why you cannot embed these fonts. You may want to take Dov up on his offer to take a look at your files. I understand that oftentimes the files people are having problems with are confidential and cannot be shared publicly. Dov is working for Adobe and used to working with confidential customer files.

Legend
October 11, 2016

One thing to be aware of is that the information on fonts is not complete until the font has been displayed. So for example if you look at page 1, and a font is used on page 2, there will be no "actual font" yet. It may also be that the "embedded subset" thing doesn't show until used.

You can double check this by looking to see if there is an "actual font" shown for these cases.

Inspiring
October 11, 2016

I have compared the Font attributes presented in the Fonts table part of the Document Properties shown when the file is just opened and Page 1 is shown on the screen

with the Font attributes presented after the file has been scrolled page by page from first to last and back to first (file is about 650 pages long) , then  opened on a middle page in which I knew Times New RomanTM fonts were used

but could not find any difference in actual presentation of information concerning  Font Embedding or related Actual Font.

Armando

Legend
October 10, 2016

Good points, though the original message mentioned 5 fonts. However, it does occur to me that the original poster might be listing both the fonts named in the PDF (next to the little icons) AND the actual fonts used to display. What must be embedded is the FIRST font. Ignore the second font (actual font) since once you embed that will be irrelevant.

Karl Heinz  Kremer
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 10, 2016

I should have scrolled up to the original question Thanks for the correction.

Inspiring
October 11, 2016

Hi,

Thank you for your follow up and for the clarifications about presentation of font names.

Please let me add the following information:

In the PDF file in which I need to embed the fonts, the “TM” font variants are explicitly
listed as not embedded:

(the file is a collection of different PDF files)


Details:

On the Win7 PC running  Acrobat DC Pro , “TM” font variants are present. I can see them listed in the Acrobat Distiller settings
as part of the Adobe PDF Settings details.

However, after executing the “Preflight > Correct PDF > Embed missing Fonts” function the “TM” fonts variants and are still listed as not embedded:

...

It is to be considered that I would need that the listed “TM” font variants are embedded in the PDF file, possibly as full font, not as Subset.

Many thanks,

Armando

Karl Heinz  Kremer
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 7, 2016

There is usually no need to embed these fonts because they are part of the "Base 14" fonts that are required to be available in every PDF viewer or processor. The only thing that this does is make your files bigger, they will not display or print any better.

Inspiring
October 7, 2016

Karl, thank you for your prompt reply.

The reason to embed those fonts stems from the need to comply with FDA requirements for PDF files part of eCTD submissions.

They specify that e.g. "Arial" can be used in the PDF.  However if , as an example, “ArialMT” is listed in the PDF,  this font would be considered a variation of “Arial” and therefore it is required that it be embedded.

For this reason I need a way to include "ArialMT" in the file.

Thank you in advance for any help,

Armando

Karl Heinz  Kremer
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 7, 2016

Preflight's "Embed missing fonts" should embed these fonts too (I just checked with my copy of Adobe Acrobat Pro DC, and it successfully embedded both ArialMT (as Arial) and TimesNewRomanPSMT (as TimesNewRoman). Are you creating the documents and trying to embed the fonts on the same system (which would make sure that all fonts available during the creation process are also available during the embedding process)?