Can blending modes be transferred from one composition to another?

[kbourg]

I created a composition in AE of a lower-third that has blending modes. I tried importing it into Premiere, but the blending mode didn't transfer. I also tried bringing my Premiere Pro video into After Effects and then laying my lower-third composition on top, but that didn't work either. Is there a way to get blending modes to either transfer from AE to PP or work between multiple compositions in AE?

[Rick Gerard]

Blending modes of individual layers will not transfer to blending modes for the entire MOGRT in Premiere Pro. You can change blending modes in Premiere, but you cannot create a MOGRT that has a blending mode built in.

If your motion graphic is complex, you might just have to redesign it or create two MOGRTs you can stack on top of each other in Premiere Pro.

[Jeffrey24092419vzou]

I am absolutely dumbfounded that mogrts do not support blend modes. These are table stakes.

[Warren Heaton]

Blend Modes are fully supported for Layers within a MOGRT; however, Blend Modes for Layers in the MOGRT do not pass through to lower Video Tracks in Premiere Pro.  

It would be amazing if there was a pass-through option, though.

[Jeffrey24092419vzou]

Unreal. What good is a template for Premiere if it can't pass on those blend modes? It seems like there has to be a way if Premiere supports Adjustment layers. Can you also not create custom adjustment layers in AE?

[Warren Heaton]

MOGRTs allow for editing content on the Premiere Pro side without having to go back to After Effects to do so.  

Being able to edit text without having to go back to After Effects is probably a top feature, but having protected regions that allow for increasing or decreasing the duration of a MOGRT in the Premiere Pro Timeline while maintaining the animation is also very helpful.

Yes, After Effects has Adjustment Layers (so does Photoshop, but those function differently); however, an After Effects Adjustment Layer used in a MOGRT only affects the Layer(s) in the MOGRT.  When the MOGRT is placed in Video Track 2 or higher, the adjustment will not affect what's in Video Track 1 showing behind the MOGRT.

[Jeffrey24092419vzou]

I understand how blend modes work within After Effects and the MOGRT, but what is not useful if that MOGRTs don't have any option for a pass-through layer, meaning blend modes in your template cannot affect affect your footage in Premiere. This means you also cannot use MOGRTs to create custom adjustment layers. In my case, I have a semi-transparent banner that appears under my custom Lower Third text in Premiere. Because the MOGRT does not support pass-through blend modes, all I can do is manipulate the opacity. The same exact template I created in Motion looks superior because the blend modes make the footage under the banner more stylized and monochromatic. Or say I wanted to create a MOGRT which applies a particular filter to the regions under my text, like even a gaussian blur. A pass-through layer should be the #1 most requested feature for MOGRTs, for all the possibilities it opens up.

[MaxAff]

I totally agree. MOGRT are basically useless since I can't get a drop shadow or a blur in my Pr timeline. Sounds like Adobe devs don't understand what usage the users make of their programs.

[Mylenium]

Show us some screenshots! Without any idea how it is supposed to look and where your layers need to be inserted nobody can advise on how to proceed. While native layer blending modes don't carry over, it may be totally possible to construct an MOGRT using media replacment options and mimicking the blending modes with effects.

Mylenium

[kbourg]

Here are my screenshots. You'll have to forgive me as I'm self-taught and still don't know a lot. The first screenshot is Premiere Pro. I imported my AE file on this one. The orange is solid. For the second screenshot, I placed my PP file into AE and added it on top there. There's a transparency that I'd like to show up in PP. I guess a workaround is to just place my video file into AE and place them there?

[Mylenium]

Yeah, pretty much what I figured. You may want to refer to this:

https://helpx.adobe.com/after-effects/using/replace-media-motion-graphics-templates.html

Alternatively you could likely isolate the overlay using track mattes and using effects like Simple Composite or similar to generate the blending mode, but try the direct method first.

Mylenium

[Rick Gerard]

If the text is 100% white and the background is colored you can just set the graphic to use the Screen overlay in Premiere Pro.

[kbourg]

Thanks, everyone! 

Mylenium I looked at your comment, but I think it's a bit over my head at this time. Rick, I took your suggestion, and I ended up making it work by placing it in Premiere Pro and setting the blend mode to hard light there. It may not be the right way but it works for now. 

[Rick Gerard]

There is nothing wrong with experimenting with Blend modes in Premiere Pro. I do it all the time. Most editors do.