How to export to Open EXR with alpha chanel without being premultiplied

[Ofcourse 88]

How to export to (Open EXR with alpha chanel without being premultiplied)

just render to Open EXR with alpha packed up within frame and not being premultiplied?

Any thoughs?

[fnordware]

In AE 2020 you can switch to Straight alpha from premultipled. Previous versions forced you to use premultiplied, because that confroms to the EXR spec.

[Ofcourse 88]

I will give it a try the next time, i thank you for now.

[kaczorefx]

Naah, 2020 still has the dropdown for alpha type grayed out when EXR is selected as the output format 😞

[felixs17274976]

hey fnord, can you explain how to enable this straight alpha feature inside AE? I cannot figure it out! Im running latest version of AE 2020. Im even willing to use a different (older) version of after effects to unlock this feature.

[fnordware]

It doesn't work for me either! Did I dream it?

[felixs17274976]

Hey fnord, 

Thanks for your reply! Do you know any way under the sun to export an EXR from After Effects with a Straight alpha channel? Does your ProEXR plugin allow this?

Kind regards,

Felix

[fnordware]

What you're supposed to be able to do is quit AE and then open the AE Prefs file (e.g. Adobe After Effects 17.7 Prefs.txt) navigate to the ["Misc Section"] and … (see additional post below)

[fnordware]

There is another way to write a straight RGBA file using ProEXR, now built into AE.

1. Drop your final comp into a new comp and duplicate the layer.
2. For the top layer, apply a Shift Channels with Alpha set to Full On. Keep Red, Green, and Blue as they are. Name this layer RGB.
3. For the bottom layer, apply Shift Channels with Alpha set to Full On. Set Red, Green, and Blue to Alpha. Name this layer A.
4. Write the file using Composition > Save Frame As > ProEXR.
5. In the ProEXR settings, turn off "Include layer composite".
6. Click the Render button.

Obviously this method is much more trouble, but it's there.

[fnordware]

OK, I have the correct answer for you, courtesy friends at Adobe.

Quit AE and edit the Prefs file called something like Adobe After Effects 17.7 Prefs-indep-general.txt. In the ["Misc Section"] you want to have this:

"Allow writing straight alpha into EXR" = 01

You may already have it there, with the value set to 00.

You can also run a script like this:

var section = "Misc Section";
var pref = "Allow writing straight alpha into EXR";
var type = PREFType.PREF_Type_MACHINE_INDEPENDENT;

if(app.preferences.havePref(section, pref, type))
{
	if(app.preferences.getPrefAsBool(section, pref, type))
	{
		alert("EXR straight alpha pref already set to TRUE.");
	}
	else
	{
		alert("EXR straight alpha pref was set to FALSE. Setting to TRUE.");
		
		app.preferences.savePrefAsBool(section, pref, true, type);
	}
}
else
{
	alert("EXR straight alpha pref not set. Setting to TRUE.");
	
	app.preferences.savePrefAsBool(section, pref, true, type);
}

[felixs17274976]

Hey fnord!

thanks for all these replies. I had the same response from Rameez Khan at Adobe about adding

"Allow writing straight alpha into EXR" = 01

But I couldn't make it work. I tried 00, 01, "1" but none of these numbers enabled the straight alpha feature. Did you manage to get this to work in your after effects? Thanks for ur ongoing help!

[felixs17274976 · Accepted solution]

Sorry, this DID work! I created a script file called EXR.jsx and added the code:

var section = "Misc Section";
var pref = "Allow writing straight alpha into EXR";
var type = PREFType.PREF_Type_MACHINE_INDEPENDENT;

if(app.preferences.havePref(section, pref, type))
{
	if(app.preferences.getPrefAsBool(section, pref, type))
	{
		alert("EXR straight alpha pref already set to TRUE.");
	}
	else
	{
		alert("EXR straight alpha pref was set to FALSE. Setting to TRUE.");
		
		app.preferences.savePrefAsBool(section, pref, true, type);
	}
}
else
{
	alert("EXR straight alpha pref not set. Setting to TRUE.");
	
	app.preferences.savePrefAsBool(section, pref, true, type);
}

Then saved it and ran it inside AE and the option is there now! THANK YOU! :)))

[kaczorefx]

Works, thanks.

Does any of you know if it is the designed way, or is it just a bug and they will fix it in the futue?

[Arnab Bagchi]

Sir, this script is not working in After Effcets 2022 and i also try to run the script in old version i,e. After Effects CS6... Still not working. (Its giving a notification that, an error occured in 3rd line.. I m clueless.. Plz help me out.

Thanks

[fnordware]

Works as expected for me in 2022. Here's the .jsx file you make. Run it with File > Scripts > Run Script File…

This forum wouldn't let me upload a .jsx, so you'll have to take off the .txt part before you try to run it.

[Arnab Bagchi]

Sir, its so much of help and thank you a lot, its working.. Now i get the
straight(unmatted) option on at the time of exporting. But i am unable to
get alpha channel into the rendered file its still showing the background
but no alpha embedded in it. So is there any setting or something to get
both background and alpha together in the footage without any extra render
pass.
Please guide me one more time.
Thanks

[fnordware]

I'm not totally sure what you're seeing, but if you render your EXR out straight, you also have to interpret it straight when you bring it back in.

[Valentin27262014jtcl]

Hello,

Your script is good, thanks ! But, I have the same problem here.

I would like to export an EXR including both RGB and alpha (I have a phone overlay layer, with a finger rotoscoping layer on top and a background underneath). However, I can't decide between the alpha of the phone layer and my final composition when I import it into Davinci, when it should be an EXR multichannel. Could you enlighten me please? 🙂

Cordially

[fnordware]

Yeah, sounds like you have multiple layers and want to make a multichannel EXR using Composition > Save Frame As > ProEXR.

[Valentin27262014jtcl]

Hello, thanks for your answer ! Yess, I would like to do that but when I import my EXR exported according to this method I only have one RGB layer without the alpha, all my layers are grouped and I cannot choose to display only the alpha of my phone's layer.

[fnordware]

You can import your EXR as a composition and all the channels will be available to you via the EXtractoR plug-in. You can also get a menu item to do it as described in this post.

[chrisbrearley]

Just came to find out the same thing. Why has this not been addressed yet? Seems like a simple fix. 

There is a caveat to the script file as well - Although the alpha is correctly being exported straight, the flag inside the file is still set to premult so any other software and indeed After Effects will interpret it incorrectly as premult when imported and needs to be manually changed.

[fnordware]

This option is intentionally left hidden because the EXR spec calls for files to be premultiplied. There is no flag in an EXR to mark it as straight.

Some people wanted to put a straight alpha in an EXR for whatever reason, so this allows them to do it, but they are responsible for dealing with whatever issues it may cause down the line.

[kaczorefx]

The reason is quite simple.

With a straight alpha matte you can give the colorist a shot with a matching alpha mask in a single file sequence.

More and more colorists ask for alpha masks for particular objects so they can use it during grading. If we can't save alpha as straight the same process requires two separate file sequences - it's just easier to put everything into one.

[kaczorefx]

Sure you could say that that's what layers in EXR are for but seriously, extracting layers from an EXR sequence is waaaaaay beyond the capabilities of any colorist I know. You just can't teach them the core concept of layers in a single file 😕 The alpha trick is thankfully something they can use - partly because Resolve does this for them 🙂