Inserted png images in After Effect comp are bright ?

[Letty2019]

Hello, got a weird one happening to me...

I inserted a couple simple "non moving" images into a clip.

Images are Chairs and Wood Blinds.

Here is what they look like in After Effects.... nice and dark, can't really notice them.... (the way I want it)

Click the pics, to remove them from this bright webpage:

Then, when I export to disc, this is what I see on the TV screen:

I exported the "good"  AE comp via ProRes, and imported that  ProRes video into PPro.  

It looked fine in PPro.   The, when I exported the clip to disc, I get the 'bright blinds and chairs' as well as the over all image does seem a bit brighter.

Very frustrated over here.  

gpu GTX1050 ti  Dynamic range is set at Limited 16-235.

Monitor are calibrated at rec 709.

Overall, the export to disc does seem to be bright in all aspects.  The pngs are highly noticable, but I'm not thrilled with everything else.

Thanks for your advice!

Letty

Maybe this question belongs in PPro section?  

[Mylenium]

Simple answer: Lack of color management. You can't enable specific output options if in fact you are not using CM in AE or Premiere thmeselves, which is kind of the point. You can't half-ass those things. It's all or nothing. That being the case, the immediate answer would be to disable and forego any such options and use a "dumb" workflow based on the default (assumed) sRGB. Otherwise you have a ton of reading to do on how to actualyl use CM consistently across programs.

Mylenium

[Letty2019]

Thanks for your reply   I'm not using any CM.   I have the monitor calibrated at rec709.  I read not to use CM if monitor is calibrated.

Is that ok?  I read it here by a pro guy.

So the video is exported out of AE via prores.  Then imported into PPRo.  Looks perfect in PPro.

Then I exported it out, not to disc this time, but using MGP2.

The MPG2 looks great on my computer.  

Then I burned the MGP2 to a bluray, using  mgp2 bluray preset in Medica Encoder and the problem came back.  it's brighter and looks just like the pic. 

Is this a preset codec issue or ?  or a CM issue?   My other regular exports from PPro are fine, (same footage)  but this time I'm using AE, exporting out via prores, then importing.... and something in that flow is messed up.

Thanks for any help, I'm out on the ledge again. 

did I mention I'm only using SD footage.  old school sd. and I want that on a bluray. 

Might be something about converting the SD, to prores which is  .mov file, then how to get that .mov file onto a bluray disc looking good?  is there a .mov preset I should be using instead of mpg2 ? or the other ones I've tried?

or just add a CM for rec.709 ?  but I'd like to keep things as simple as possible.  I'm not worried about perfect color, it's SD footage, but I would like the screen to match what the final output on the tv screen. Thanks for your help!!  I'll check back tonight. 

Thanks so much,

Letty

one more thing....  I calibrated the monitor a few months back, it's an awesome ultra wide monitor, and looks great.  1 year old.   So my monitor calibration is out of whack??  and that's why the mpg2 looks good on my monitor but my disc creation looks like crap on the tv??? 

I just can't believe my monitor is bad. It looks great. 

It seems all fingers are pointing the monitor calibration because the monitor doesn't match the tv image.

sorry for all this writing, just trying to figure it out.  Set me straight!  Thanks!! 

[Letty2019 · Accepted solution]

If anybody has read this and is still in the dark as I was... I found a great little tutorial.  

BTW, turns out my CM should be turned ON, so it can use my calibrated ICC profile rec.709.  Not as complicated as it appears.

https://premierepro.net/color-management-premiere-pro/

and

https://blog.frame.io/2019/08/26/color-management-abobe-cc/