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Tips for editing a fight scene

New Here ,
Aug 28, 2024 Aug 28, 2024

Hi everybody!

 

I am currently in high school and looking how to edit fight scenes with After effects. I know the basic premise (Camera Shake, lights, etc.) but I'm lookig for the specific things 😛

 

What should I know?

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Community Expert ,
Aug 28, 2024 Aug 28, 2024

in the future, to find the best place to post your message, use the list here, https://community.adobe.com/

p.s. i don't think the adobe website, and forums in particular, are easy to navigate, so don't spend a lot of time searching that forum list. do your best and we'll move the post (like this one has already been moved) if it helps you get responses.



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LEGEND ,
Aug 28, 2024 Aug 28, 2024

I have no idea what you are even asking. 90% of this has nothing to do with AE, but rather the actual planning of the shoot. If you already have footage you can provide lips and screenshots and people can advise on how to spice things up just like we can give tips based on a script/ storyboard, but otherwise this is way too broad and generic a question.

 

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Community Expert ,
Aug 28, 2024 Aug 28, 2024

First, After Effects is not a video editing app—it never was. You edit in an NLE like Premiere Pro and use After Effects to create effects in shots you can't create in an NLE.

 

Effective editing for a sequence requires understanding the feelings you get by where the main subject is in the frame, how they are moving, how the light is reacting, and the timing of the cut. Adding effects like camera shake or light flashes can subtly change the mood of a shot, and sometimes those extras may need to be created in a compositing and effects editing app like After Effects. A pro would never try to edit a fight sequence in After Effects. You might improve a sequence of two or three shots in AE, add some distortion to a face after a punch, add flying blood or teeth, or add some sweat to a shot, but you would not cut a whole scene or a short movie in AE.

 

Let me give you an example. In a scene between a man and a woman, changing the cut by one frame can completely change the story the audience perceives. If the man is looking to camera left, and the woman is looking camera right, and you cut from the woman to the man before she blinks and then cut another version of the scene, cutting one frame after she blinks, the mood of the story will change from they are starting an argument to they are falling in love.

 

If fists are flying, cutting from the wide to the closeup or from camera one to camera two can change the intensity of the fight from Wow, that was a big hit, so he hardly touched him by just shifting the cut point from matching action to leading or following the second shot in real-time. They do that all the time in Jackie Chan movies. He throws a punch, and his arm is almost fully extended when the cut is made, but in the second shot, his arm is only halfway to his opponent. Those decisions are made in an NLE, not an effects app.

 

The key to an effective fight scene is first, camera angle and composition, then lighting, then the timing of the cuts, and only then, visual effects and composites (the things you do to a shot in After Effects). It is that way with any scene in a movie or short film.

 

I suggest you carefully watch a couple of fight scenes from movies you want to emulate. Look at them a frame at a time. Pay attention to the timing of the cuts. If you have not shot your scenes yet, the camera angles and the lighting are at least as important as the choreography of your actors. If you want to get personal with a shot, the camera should be as close to the actor as the other actor is. Most of the movie Rocky's great fight scenes shots were shot with a camera in the ring with the fighters. That makes the visual experience up close and personal. You'll never capture that kind of emotion by putting the camera at the back of the room and zooming in on the actors.

 

I hope this helps. There is no magic here. There are no plugins or AI tools that will help you more effectively create a scene that has any more emotional impact than a video game.

 

 

 

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Advocate ,
Aug 28, 2024 Aug 28, 2024

I think he's referring to that kind of effects:

FX Effects in Boxing & MMA [Part 3] Must Watch ! 

A mix of real fighting and video games

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Community Expert ,
Aug 28, 2024 Aug 28, 2024
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Assemble the shots in Premiere Pro then send it to After Effects for effects work.  You can send the entire timeline or just select clips.  . 

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