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April 23, 2023
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AI Denoise takes 4-8 minutes

  • April 23, 2023
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I have Lightroom classic 12.3 with the AI noise reduction.  It takes a very long time 4-8 minutes to reduce the noise in a  image.  While the image is being denoised, it "flickers" every 15-20 seconds.

When I use Topaz AI Photo on the same image, it takes less than a minute to denoise and sharpen the image.

What can be the problem?  Is there a setting I have to change,? my computer is only 2 years old and has no problems farder in Lightroom or Photoshop.

I attach some screen shot of  an image and my computer info.

Thanks,

Bert

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解決に役立った回答 Keith Reeder

@berts74084431 wrote:

If for Adobe, the people who have "older hardware" (and that are most of there subscribers), are not a first priority.  Than that says at lot about there attitute for there customers.


 

That makes no sense. The simple fact is that we're talking about resource-intensive code, which Adobe will surely refine as they develop it.

 

There's no call to take things personally - Adobe isn't out to get you.

 

You mention Topaz: I know from my own experience that it runs like a dog on what constitutes "older hardware" for its requirements - the fact that it's currently faster than Lr on your machine is pretty irrelevant as a data point: it just means that its requirements more closely match your machines capabilities.

 

A pure fluke, really - certainly not evidence of an evil Adobe agenda...

 

For further context: on my machine (which has a functional, though far from cutting-edge, GPU with 8gb of  memory) files that take 15 seconds in On One Photo Raw take a minute in Lr; and ten minutes in DxO PhotoLab or PureRaw. Adobe is already far ahead of DxO in performance and code optimisation terms, and we can expect that trend to continue.

 

The point is that this is a simple fact of life: as software gets more and more resource intensive, we're all going to run into instances of software bogging down because it has surpassed the capabilities of the hardware it's running on.

 

So: we either upgrade our hardware; wait until the software is sufficiently optimised to meet our arbitrary expectations (which might never happen, of course); live with the longer processing times; or use something else.

 

Ascribing agendas to Adobe's imagined motivations is futile and unhealthy.

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Conrad_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 23, 2023

Because AI Denoise is only about a week old, Adobe probably still has to do some optimization for older hardware. That might explain why Topaz is so much faster for the same image on the same hardware.

 

Until they can do that, the best AI performance is being seen by people with newer hardware.

berts74084431作成者
Participating Frequently
April 23, 2023

If for Adobe, the people who have "older hardware" (and that are most of there subscribers), are not a first priority.  Than that says at lot about there attitute for there customers.

TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
April 23, 2023

What it says is Adobe codes for the bleeding edge, just as they provide functionality for that group. 

The new Denoise works for you. It's not as fast as you want. Understood. You can update your hardware. You can use the new and IMHO awesome feature but wait, you can use another product. The correct answer above is clear: your hardware needed to be updated but it still is slow in comparison to more modern GPUs. 

The time to process an R6 Mark II CR3 for me, on an M1 MBP is 12 seconds. Which is why I updated my hardware 6 months ago. I will very likely do the same in 2-3 years because when the rubber meets the road, I need high-performance computing for just these high end products, not surfing the web, Excel or email. 

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TheDigitalDog
Inspiring
April 23, 2023
Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management/pluralsight"
GoldingD
Legend
April 23, 2023

 

 

Operating system: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 19042) (19041.vb_release.191206-1406)

 

 

Card name: Radeon RX 570 Series
Manufacturer: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.

 

 

Display Memory: 20423 MB
Dedicated Memory: 4075 MB

 

 

Driver File Version: 27.20.14501.18003 (English)

 

I suspect that your GPU driver is old, and that current is (Windows Driver Store )Version 31.0.14051.1000, but not an AMD user, so could be wrong.

johnrellis
Legend
April 23, 2023

That driver, 27.20.14501.18003, is about 2.5 years old. Download the latest driver from here:

https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/radeon-500-series/radeon-rx-500-series/radeon-rx-570 

 

That may provide some speedup. But your graphics card is six years old, and as others have noted here and in other threads, older cards are much slower than newer ones.  

berts74084431作成者
Participating Frequently
April 23, 2023

John,

Thanks for the link to update my driver.  It brought the Denoise time down by half.  Still most images 1-3 minutes.  What is still more than dubbel the time of Topaz Photo AI.

Also while the image is being denoised in Adobe Photoshop, it flickers every 20-30 seconds, what other people have also said on this forum.

It seems to me that there is a Adobe software problem with Denoise.

I think I have to keep using Topaz till Adobe fixes this problem.

Giving how fast they are working on the "not starting Lightroom" problem, I don't keep my hopes up that they will give this much priority.