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March 29, 2022
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Vignetting profile correction for Canon RF100-500 makes it even worse

  • March 29, 2022
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Hello team,

 

last week I upgraded to my first full frame camera (Canon EOS R5) plus a new lens (RF 100-500L). I took it out this weekend to the airport to take some pics of aircraft. Now back home I recognized the strong vignetting I got while shooting with f7.1. Nothing new for full frame, but it should be correctable within Lightroom. LR finds my lens automatically, but when I apple the correction, the picture gets even worse with a strong dark area in the middle. Whatever changes I make with the sliders of the correction, it gets worse.
I will attach two examples, with very high contrast so you can see it better.
EXIF data: 1/640s, f7.1, ISO100, 400mm

Is there any updated profile I can use? Or anything else to save my pictures already taken?

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Jim Wilde
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March 31, 2022
quote

LR finds my lens automatically, but when I apple the correction, the picture gets even worse with a strong dark area in the middle. Whatever changes I make with the sliders of the correction, it gets worse.

By @kampfhase1106

 

I don't really understand why you are seeing an issue. You said that after import you applied corrections, what corrections are you meaning: applying the lens profile or appling vignetting corrections manually?

When you import images from the R5, Lr Classic automatically enables the "Remove Chromatic Aberration" and the "Enable Profile Correction" settings in the Lens Corrections panel (I've reported that as a bug a while ago, but it's still happeneing). Obviously the lens profile should automatically correct any lens vignetting, and that's certainly what happens when I import your image into LrC version 11.2. This is how the image looks in the Develop after importing:

 

 

And this is how it looks if I disable the Lens Profile:

 

 

All of that appears entirely normal behaviour to me, I don't have to touch either of the vignetting sliders (but even if I do push the sliders to either extreme I cannot see anything untoward happening in the centre of the image). So a couple of questions:

 

1. Are you appling any develop preset during import?

2. Have you set anything other than Adobe Default as the Raw Defaults in the Preferences>Presets tab, or do you have any camera-specific settings specified?

kampfhase1106作成者
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March 31, 2022

Yes you are completely correct. While importing the lens profile is correctly chosen and applied. It looks exactly like on your screens. You can also see a difference when applying the correction.
But still - and that is my real onyl issue here - the vignetting is not 100% cleared. This worked all the time with my older lenses, but this profile for this lens is not working correctly - which is honestly said not really visible on an unequalized image, but it's there. Maybe it's nitpicking, but really important for me.

DdeGannes
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March 31, 2022

Just some thoughts on the issue you have initiated.

You have purchased a Camera from Canon the manufacturer and they have provided you with software to process the raw image files produced by the camera model which includes profiles to render the raw data and also correction lens profiles needed for the correction of vignetting, chromatic aberration, distortion etc.

You have chosen Adobe Camera Raw / Lightroom Classic software to utilize as an alternative to your camera manufacturer software. So you should first compare if your choice is the one to adopt. Does Adobe offer and provide an improved rendition?

If you are satisfied that is the better option then proceed and utilize the tools available.

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
DdeGannes
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March 30, 2022

Just another thought "out of the box", did you by chance use DxO Photo Lab to apply lens correction.

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
DdeGannes
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March 30, 2022

I have downloaded the image you shared and imported into LrC 11.2 using the Adobe default default develop. Also tried the Landscape profile. The camera lens profile gets applied automatically with remove chromatic aberration.

In all instances the image displayed an acceptable rendition.

What version of Lightdoom Classic are you using? Are using version 11.2 the latest update.

 

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
kampfhase1106作成者
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March 30, 2022

I am also using the latest version 11.2 which comes automatically with the monthly subscription.

The default and Landscape profiles should only affect the camera settings, right? And the lens profile for the lens.

 

Have you also tried to equalize the file in PS to make the dark areas visible?

DdeGannes
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March 31, 2022

Quote “Have you also tried to equalize the file in PS to make the dark areas visible?”

No, what does that have to do with how Lightroom is rendering a raw file applying a develop profile and applying lens correction. If what you are doing in PS is causing a problem then avoid that tool.

LrC has tools to address dark areas in an image. Photoshop CS6 was introduced in 2012, if you have LrC 11 then you also have the latest version of PS.

There is also a specific forum for Photoshop and if you require help with the “equalize” tool you can seek help in that forum.

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
DdeGannes
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March 30, 2022

Is it possible for you to share the raw image file via Dropbox or the like, so other users can test to determine if they can test what you are experiencing.

 

Regards, Denis: iMac 27” mid-2015, macOS 11.7.10 Big Sur; 2TB SSD, 24 GB Ram, GPU 2 GB; LrC 12.5,; Lr 6.5, PS 24.7,; ACR 15.5,; (also Laptop Win 11, ver 24H2, LrC 15.0.1, PS 27.0; ) Camera Oly OM-D E-M1.
kampfhase1106作成者
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March 30, 2022

Thank you for the suggestion. Here is my RAW file for you to play with.

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mev2cg3ztxy56po/R05_0423.CR3?dl=0

josephlavine
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March 30, 2022

Within Lens Correction, you can switch to Manual and manually correct. I suggest saving the setting as a Preset so that you can easily correct it in the future.

warmly/j

kampfhase1106作成者
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March 30, 2022

I have already done this with all settings possible. But the more I remove the dark corners, the harder the dark spot in the middle gets. Whatever settings I choose.

Abambo
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March 30, 2022

It looks to me that the image has been edited to an extent that clipping appears. Did you shoot in raw?

 

(unrelated to this: did you see the sensor spot somewhere above the wing?

)

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
kampfhase1106作成者
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March 30, 2022

Hi Abambo,

 

the picture hasn't been edited at all. It has just been equalized in Photoshop to show the vignetting better.
Yes I shoot in RAW.

I have seen the dust spot, but I have no idea how it got there. I never changed lenses. I just put this new lens to my new camera as quickly as possible and never removed it.

Abambo
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March 30, 2022

I have no idea what you "equalized", but it's a great difference between this:

 and this

And if you apply the lens profile, which is automatically recognized, the vignetting gets very nicely weakened. By using the slider you can modify the amount of vignetting correction you want to apply. Works perfectly for me. I used here Camera Raw, but the tools should react the same in LrC:

 

 

As for the dust spot: if it's only this one, it's easy to keep an eye on it.

 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer