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November 17, 2012
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Difference between lightroom and elements

  • November 17, 2012
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Hello,

I am a new photographer. I am looking to buy one of these softwares. I am wanting to know what the difference is between photoshop elements 11 and lightroom 4? Which one is better? Which one is recommended more? If you could help me in choosing which one to purchase that would greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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    解決に役立った回答 MichelBParis

    PSE11 and LR4 have a lot of similar (and overlapping) functions and at the same time significant differences. The result is that many users find they are complementary and work with both.

    Let's see the various tasks :

    - raw conversion : LR is the king, but PSE11 has a reduced version enabling 90% of your needs

    - Organizing : both use a sqlite database system. LR is said to be more powerful : I'd rather say it's much more flexibe with a lot of useful options. The Organizer in Elements offers a very useful backup command to backup not only catalogs but also your media files.

    - Editing : that is the originality and strenght of LR : it offers 'parametric' editing. You are not obliged to do copies of your edited files, you only save the changes steps. Note that when you use ACR in PSE11, the same is true.

    On the other hand, even if the new version of LR offers local edit tools, it's not as powerful as PSE11 which has a lot of powerful tools like masks and layers. For that reason only, most LR users also have another editing software like Photoshop CS6, but very often, PSE is the best companion.

    The main thing to understand is how Lightroom works. Note that the advantage of starting with PSE11 is that it can do all the tasks now, and be the best companion in the future if you decide to go with Lightroom. LR can easily convert your PSE catalogs, so nothing will be lost.

    For the comparison of prices, also look at the upgrade price policy especially if you think you'll get new cameras for raw shooting. You might have to upgrade to be able to use a new camera or simply to take advantage of new features in either LR or PSE.

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    Participant
    April 26, 2013

    Hi cheer,

    If you are a new photographer probably your best choice would be Elements. This program combines all the necessary features you would need todo photo editing at your stage. Lightroom is usually for more advanced photographers who usually use it at the begining of a photo editing session. They use lightroom to open RAW files and then catagorize them and do whatever editing possible. Then if the situation calls for more detailed editing such as using "Layers" etc then one would open up Photoshop CS and finish off the work. Elements was designed for photographers who require some of the features of each of the other two. Lightroom does not have layers where as Elements does. Photoshop CS does not have some of the neat bells and whistles of lightroom, like sending photos to facebook but Elements does.

    So they took just the best basic features of both pro programs and combined them into a neat package called Elements, which also has a Photo Organizer for cataloguing all your photos. The new Elements 11 has a nicer look than #10 to me. Less clutter. What you should do is download the 30 day trial and try a few photos.

    Adobe did a lot of thinking when they made Elements. Sometimes I listen to people complaining. I started in photography 43 years ago using 4x5 and 8x10 cameras and chemical processing, big difference. That was something else to complain about. Elements also has the ability to select more precise parts of a photo and apply changes such as exposure or white balance to just those areas. Plus it's cheaper. When you turn pro you can buy the other two, ha.

    Community Expert
    April 26, 2013

    Jim1sheba wrote:

    Hi cheer,

    Did you notice that cheer's 2nd and last post was on Nov 17?

    June 1, 2013

    I still cant tell which one is for me.

    I want to be able to process RAW files, do perspective correction (tall buildings etc), stitch panoramas, fix blemishes and do HDR merging (I currently use photomatics pro which Im happy to keep using if need be).

    I mostly shoot achitecture and landscapes but get asked to do the odd wedding for friends, nothing hugely manipulative.

    Thanks, Tim

    Community Expert
    November 17, 2012

    cheer89fjh wrote:

    Hello,

    I am a new photographer. I am looking to buy one of these softwares. I am wanting to know what the difference is between photoshop elements 11 and lightroom 4? Which one is better? Which one is recommended more? If you could help me in choosing which one to purchase that would greatly appreciated.

    Thank you.

    I'm an old photographer, but new to Adobe stuff.  I bought both with Premier Elements for a new computer.  I'm devoting retirement to learning how to use all of it. 

    I have a group of photos where the camera was set for indoor light and I was shooting outdoors.  In LR I can fix them all at once.  In PSE I can fix them one at a time.

    I have a shot of a young eagle in a tree across the street with a power line in the way.  I will use PSE to get rid of the powerline.

    PSE comes with Organizer and it is very good but runs separately.  With LR it is built in.  (Integrated?)  You don't switch back and forth. 

    MichelBParis
    Legend
    November 17, 2012

    whsprague wrote:

    cheer89fjh wrote:

    Hello,

    I am a new photographer. I am looking to buy one of these softwares. I am wanting to know what the difference is between photoshop elements 11 and lightroom 4? Which one is better? Which one is recommended more? If you could help me in choosing which one to purchase that would greatly appreciated.

    Thank you.

    I'm an old photographer, but new to Adobe stuff.  I bought both with Premier Elements for a new computer.  I'm devoting retirement to learning how to use all of it. 

    I have a group of photos where the camera was set for indoor light and I was shooting outdoors.  In LR I can fix them all at once.  In PSE I can fix them one at a time.

    I have a shot of a young eagle in a tree across the street with a power line in the way.  I will use PSE to get rid of the powerline.

    PSE comes with Organizer and it is very good but runs separately.  With LR it is built in.  (Integrated?)  You don't switch back and forth. 

    Good points,

    Note that in PSE you can open several raw pictures at the same time, and apply the same correction to all opened pictures. Or that if you have a particular setting you want to apply to several pictures individually, you can apply the 'last settings' to the next picture. That's something only the ACR module can offer in PSE.

    If you are not shooting raw but you want to use ACR to develop jpegs, you can do it in PSE, but without limitations : you can only open them in the editor, not from the organizer. In LR, there is no difference : big advantage.

    November 18, 2012

    So which program is better? Which should I buy? I still have no idea.

    Sent from my iPhone

    Inspiring
    November 17, 2012

    For the majority of users, the main strength of PSE is as a pixel editor, while LR excels as a raw converter and asset manager. Many people use LR to convert their raw files and manage their photos, while use PSE as a supplemental editor when they need more than LR can do that way.

    MichelBParis
    MichelBParis解決!
    Legend
    November 17, 2012

    PSE11 and LR4 have a lot of similar (and overlapping) functions and at the same time significant differences. The result is that many users find they are complementary and work with both.

    Let's see the various tasks :

    - raw conversion : LR is the king, but PSE11 has a reduced version enabling 90% of your needs

    - Organizing : both use a sqlite database system. LR is said to be more powerful : I'd rather say it's much more flexibe with a lot of useful options. The Organizer in Elements offers a very useful backup command to backup not only catalogs but also your media files.

    - Editing : that is the originality and strenght of LR : it offers 'parametric' editing. You are not obliged to do copies of your edited files, you only save the changes steps. Note that when you use ACR in PSE11, the same is true.

    On the other hand, even if the new version of LR offers local edit tools, it's not as powerful as PSE11 which has a lot of powerful tools like masks and layers. For that reason only, most LR users also have another editing software like Photoshop CS6, but very often, PSE is the best companion.

    The main thing to understand is how Lightroom works. Note that the advantage of starting with PSE11 is that it can do all the tasks now, and be the best companion in the future if you decide to go with Lightroom. LR can easily convert your PSE catalogs, so nothing will be lost.

    For the comparison of prices, also look at the upgrade price policy especially if you think you'll get new cameras for raw shooting. You might have to upgrade to be able to use a new camera or simply to take advantage of new features in either LR or PSE.

    Community Expert
    November 17, 2012

    MichelBParis wrote:

    Let's see the various tasks :

    - raw conversion : LR is the king, but PSE11 has a reduced version enabling 90% of your needs

    I spent an entire day last week trying to figure that out because I needed the tools to support a new camera.  Adobe takes or makes the code to handle each camera model and their lenses.  The product is called Adobe Camera Raw or "ACR"  They make that data available to several of their software programs, including PSE 11 and LR. 

    In LR they configure the interface so that all the ACR controls look like the rest of LR.  In other words, you don't see ACR.  It is hidden under the hood.

    In PSE, when you open a RAW file, ACR as a plug in program pops up with it's own set of silders and controls.  According to an Adobe instruction I read somewhere (?) it says the only difference is a little variation the names of the sliders.  The rest is the same and comes from the same source.

    Bill