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pauls90132518
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April 28, 2018
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Organizer and OneDrive

  • April 28, 2018
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I am using Elements Organizer 15. I have two PC that are running Windows 10. I have place all of my photos in OneDrive. This seems to work quite well, with regard to performance,  as there is a local copy of my cloud based OneDrive photos. By default Organizer places the catalog  in C:\ProgramData\Adobe\ElementsOrganizer\Catalogs. I would like to run Organizer on either of my computers so I tried moving the Catalog onto OneDrive. The problem is that the photo locations in Organizer includes the computer name. Hence when I go to my second PC all of the photos cannot be found. It would be nice if Organizer would look in the OneDrive for of the PC in use rather than attempt to find this folder on the other PC.

So the question is: does anyone have a method that solves this issue?

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    MichelBParis
    MichelBParis
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    April 29, 2018

    pauls90132518  wrote

    I am using Elements Organizer 15. I have two PC that are running Windows 10. I have place all of my photos in OneDrive. This seems to work quite well, with regard to performance,  as there is a local copy of my cloud based OneDrive photos. By default Organizer places the catalog  in C:\ProgramData\Adobe\ElementsOrganizer\Catalogs. I would like to run Organizer on either of my computers so I tried moving the Catalog onto OneDrive. The problem is that the photo locations in Organizer includes the computer name. Hence when I go to my second PC all of the photos cannot be found. It would be nice if Organizer would look in the OneDrive for of the PC in use rather than attempt to find this folder on the other PC.

    So the question is: does anyone have a method that solves this issue?

    First, the two key points to consider:

    1 - you can keep your catolog where you want. The location of the catalog folder is not relevant for your purpose. You can move or copy the catalog folder anywhere, its contents are not changed, including the pointers to the folder location of each file.

    2 - You have two different computers, that is two different drives. The catalog holds the identification of your drive in the catalog so that all location as wrong in the other computer.

    What can one do to keep both the photo files library and catalogs in sync?

    - The old classical way to backup and restore from an external drive is foolproof but takes al lot of time

    - My usual trick is to edit the sqlite catalog file to update the drive identification. It's prudent to be acquainted with sql editing.

    - I have not tried a possible solution to fool the catalog. That could be done by having your OS change the drive identification and make the internal serial number of both drives the same on both computers.

    For more details about the way catalogs store the drive identification, see:

    psedbtool (Photoshop Elements Database Tool)

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    pauls90132518作成者
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    April 29, 2018

    Michel,

    Thank you for your detailed answer that shows a good understanding of the issue. My hope is that there is someway to get Organizer to look for photos in the OneDrive folder of the computer and the user that is in use. It may be that there is some reason why this could not be done. It seems from your answer that it is not a choice at the moment. I have recently tried the reconnect feature, hoping that once I pointed to the OneDrive folder location the time hit would not be too bad. However as I have subfolders Organizer seems to need help finding each of these. This requirement makes this choice unacceptable.

    Regards,

    Paul

    MichelBParis
    MichelBParis
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    June 27, 2018

    My hope that Adobe should take cloud storage seriously which clearly they are not.

    it should be clear guide for using the apps with

    Onedrive ( on-demand )

    Google drive ( stream)

    Dropbox

    I have photos on all the three and I use all of them and I am starting to move out of adobe for their disrespect for customers interested.

    I can not mention the alternative here to respect the forum guidlines.


    https://forums.adobe.com/people/Zed+T.+Dean+WSI  wrote

    My hope that Adobe should take cloud storage seriously which clearly they are not.

    Adobe has chosen Lightroom to implement cloud storage solutions.

    Elements and the organizer have never been designed to work with the Cloud. Remember the Revel experience?

    I have photos on all the three and I use all of them and I am starting to move out of adobe for their disrespect for customers interested.

    The purpose of the organizer is and has always been (since nearly twenty years) to enable management of local files. How is that 'disrespectful'? Other users might find disrespectful that Elements does not offer vector editing or any of the advanced tools in Photoshop or Lightroom.

    it should be clear guide for using the apps with

    Onedrive ( on-demand )

    Google drive ( stream)

    Dropbox

    The common factor is that it's easy to use any of those solutions (I do use mainly Dropbox and Onedrive) if you agree that each partner, Adobe and the Cloud supplier plays their part. The Cloud suppliers manage syncing and Adobe keeps 100% of the powerful organizing tool available on the synced folders. Yes, that's at the cost of keeping a synced copy in your computer;  however that has also advantages.

    I can not mention the alternative here to respect the forum guidlines

    The guidelines don't forbid features comparisons or requests. If you read Adobe forums regularly, you'll see that there are a lot of references to the competition; that's good if that's informative.

    I agree with you that Adobe help to use the Cloud services you mentioned could be better.

    One serious problem is that a lot of Cloud services are apt to offer multi-user sharing with limited organization features (maybe folders or albums). We are seeing many new users expecting to have at the same time the power of the Organizer and the flexibility of Google Photos...

    Feature Request: Elegant integration with Google Photos | Photoshop Family Customer Community

    So please, don't refrain to tell us what is missing and the possible alternative(s)

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